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America’s first slave owner was a black man.


first_slaveAccording to colonial records, the first slave owner in the United States was a black man.

Prior to 1655 there were no legal slaves in the colonies, only indentured servants. All masters were required to free their servants after their time was up. Seven years was the limit that an indentured servant could be held. Upon their release they were granted50 acres of land. This included any Negro purchased from slave traders. Negros were also granted 50 acres upon their release.

Anthony Johnson was a Negro from modern-day Angola. He was brought to the US to work on a tobacco farm in 1619. In 1622 he was almost killed when Powhatan Indians attacked the farm. 52 out of 57 people on the farm perished in the attack. He married a female black servant while working on the farm.

When Anthony was released he was legally recognized as a “free Negro” and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he held 250 acres and five black indentured servants. In 1654, it was time for Anthony to release John Casor, a black indentured servant. Instead Anthony told Casor he was extending his time. Casor left and became employed by the free white man Robert Parker.

Anthony Johnson sued Robert Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654. In 1655, the court ruled that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. The court gave judicial sanction for blacksto own slave of their own race. Thus Casor became the first permanent slave and Johnson the first slave owner.

Whites still could not legally hold a black servant as an indefinite slave until 1670. In that year, the colonial assembly passed legislation permitting free whites, blacks, and Indians the right to own blacks as slaves.

By 1699, the number of free blacks prompted fears of a “Negro insurrection.” Virginia Colonial ordered the repatriation of freed blacks back to Africa. Many blacks sold themselves to white masters so they would not have to go to Africa. This was the first effort to gently repatriate free blacks back to Africa. The modern nations of Sierra Leone and Liberia both originated as colonies of repatriated former black slaves.

However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Sources:
John Casor
Anthony Johnson

  • Lynn Dehnner

    Expect the liberal press to attempt to discredit this story in every way possible.

    Copy the Wiki pages. They may be changed to alter the reality of this important fact.

    • William Dunlap

      It doesn’t matter that Anthony Johnson and 3000 blacks owned slaves… You can’t use this fact to turn around the fact that the WORLD, and mostly WHITE people having the power, influence and resources were the major players in the slave trade! To now blame slavery on blacks is IDIOCY!!! Adam sinned, so I guess he’s the #1 reason Jesus Christ was sent to die for us… EDUCATION and COMMON SENSE are not so common…

      • Travis

        I don’t believe your religious metaphor washes in this conversation.
        It’s the same system that has existed for ever supply and demand.
        The colonies needed labor the world provided labor. It’s happening right now in Arab countries the lower sects are serving the ones in power.
        White people seem to control everything because they explored the world rather than scratch around the same old dirt.
        History is full of cases where whites came, conquered, and built where there was nothing before.
        Look into the history of Russia they have had some crazy things happen there, that is an old country America is just a baby in comparison.
        Though there is no better place in the world to start from nothing and make something of yourself than America.
        The race card is getting old and stale, too many people have risen up from what ever poor situation they are in to become prosperous citizens for
        anyone to now say it can’t be done. Only things keeping you down is your own desire.

        • stan schmunk

          Ooops!! The colonies needed SLAVE labor because there were never enough whites competent or willing enough to do that kind of work (and still aren’t). Up until the 1960s the U.S. wasn’t a great place to make something for yourself if you were a minority. Now, yes, but only for the last 40 years or so.

          • Jane

            There is a good book on the white slaves called: THE PIRATE COAST.

      • aniee

        How do you explain that people like Herod had Black slaves or all those other dudes that ruled Rome? I guess they were all rich powerful and White? Not so sure about the being White? Slave trade goes back centuries, Blacks sold Blacks. It was long before our time. What is your point? I had a long time ago relative that was a cattle rustler….so big deal, I’m not mad. I mean i get it, we are talking about owning another human. Not cool. Hey, whatcha gonna do? Be pissed for all of your life? Why not work for a cause like making sure we don’t let little girls get snatched away and taken to be sold for the sex trade. That’s pretty much like slavery, right? I mean, do something to chanel your energies in today’s society instead of living in the past.

      • Jane

        We can blame slavery on africans and arabs, they ran the slave trade.

  • Global Minority

    Keep up the good work and this should be mandatory education in the school system, public, private and homeschool.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Well, except that it isn’t even partly true.

  • http://bennindiana.blogspot.com Ben N Indiana

    Excellent!

  • Flu-Bird

    Well, well, what a big surprise thatll realy get the NAACP as well as JESSIE JACKSON and AL SHARPTONS noses in the wringer as well as all these revionists history books

    • tracy

      The inequity of cultural benefits of our society between blacks and whites Exists Now. No history of the past is necessary to know that/
      Oppression against blacks exist Now, and is a terrible thing. We citizens should be ashamed of it in the Now, and need no history books.

      • Native Texan

        Tracy, the difference in results has very little to do with racism. There are a vast number of things that affect the results that each of us experience and skin color is a minor one. Humans of every race experience success in America and demonstrate that this is the most level playing field available.

      • Gerald Allen

        Have you ever thought that people don’t want them around because of how they act? I grew up in Calif. and we had little race problems in San Diego. 5 years ago I moved to Oklahoma City, and here I see why people don’t like or trust black people. It is the way they act. Yelling when they don’t get their way.
        There was a girl in line at the supermarket. She had a full cart and was yelling at the cashier calling her a racist because she would not check her out. The problem…she was in a 15 items or less line and the checker tried to explain very nicely that it was against company rules to take more than 15 items there. Not a racist problem here, just an entitlement problem.

      • MilitaryOnlineSales.com

        The president is black. Seriously?

  • Rhonda

    I knew a black woman who was descended from free black landowners who owned slaves–there were many in Louisianna apparently.
    She said to me…”Don’t let them fool you. All blacks don’t come from slaves and many blacks owned slaves!”

    • PG King

      Don’t forget Georgia and Alabama. These things are well documented before and after the so-called civil war. I learned from this website that whites (Irish) were the first slaves. My question would be: Why would whites try to ignore their own history?

      • Metalmoto

        I don’t think us whites are ignoring our history of our own enslavement. It’s really more a matter of we realize that the past is the past. It’s done and over with. We’ve moved on, looked forward instead of back. We’ve lost that chip on our shoulders a LONG time ago and don’t cop an attitude of “we’re owed” something. So our attitude has allowed us to flourish and not play the poor victim and we act accordingly. Blacks say how they are discriminated against. They don’t know what discrimination is today. My Irish ancestors could tell you what true discrimination is. Blacks today just walk around with a chip on their shoulder and cry discrimination because people look at them funny for acting like morons. Not all blacks, but far too many.

        • PG King

          I appreciate your comment.

        • 2ruTH shall set u

          Maybe that happens bc… Certain Irish people make comments like this pretending they are over something yet are clearly instigating responses like how I have just made. But, it will be ok bc you apparently have no chip on your shoulder bc you have made it very clear to point that out. You may wish to believe you have convinced someone besides yourself, but try to convince yourself that your entire msg was not of a prejudice.

          • Metalmoto

            2ruTH…all I can say is that your response is absolutely typical. That’s okay though because most intelligent, self sufficient people expect nothing more from the “woe is me” victimized mentality and entitlement seeking opportunist community that you belong to. As far as having a chip on my shoulder, not at all. It’s more like we have dung on the bottom of our shoe that needs to be wiped clean. And that dung is people like yourself that would love nothing more than to have someone else put money in your pocket under the guise of reparations from something that your generation knows nothing about. Instead of taking responsibility for yourself, your own actions and your own lack of individuality. You are cheapening your own self sufficiency for the sake of a collective that feels they are owed something. Well junior, nobody owes you anything. I really don’t know of this prejudice you speak of from my statement. But you apparently are very intimate with prejudice. I called no one a name. I didn’t make anyone seem less important because of their race, color or creed. I simply made an observation that is widely seen by the majority based on others actions and their own statements. I didn’t generalize any race as you did about the Irish in your own comment. Look in the mirror son. You may be black, white, yellow or red as far as I know. But your attitude that is not based in any fact gave away your own bigotry. All I can say is this. If you want something, go out and put in the work to get it. If you aren’t where you want to be in life, get there. But don’t blame anyone else for you not being where you want to be. That is a cowards way out.

          • Carl McGee

            Nobody cares what happened to Irish people?…
            You got over it and moved on?…
            So I guess all that IRA fuss was just all made up by the liberal media…
            Try looking up EUGENICS and the plan to eradicate the black race- the descendants of African slaves…

          • Jay7027

            You obviously have no idea what the whole, as you put it, ‘IRA fuss’ is about. So save us all an example of how stupid you are on the subject and don’t try to use it in conversation. As for Eugenics, you’re right. But who votes in the Dems, the perpetrators of the mindset you complained about, the allies of Planned Parenthood which was started by the racist Margret Sanger for the sole purpose to, as you said, ‘eradicate the Black race’? I’ll answer for you, the Black community does. They keep electing the architects of their own destruction. And why? Well cus they get free sh*t. They are getting paid off based on their entitlement mentality to put into office the VERY PEOPLE who want to kill off their race. The moronic cycle is so staggeringly stupid it reeks of insanity. And WHILE they hold on to the horrid memory of slavery they seem to LOVE to forget that it was DEMS who enslaved them and REPUBS who freed them.

          • William Dunlap

            You’re confusing the party’s identities from hundreds of years ago… I lean conservative and am black, however, the parties have morphed into different entities now… So to simply state the fact that Republicans freed slaves, which is true, doesn’t necessarily mean that the Republican Party NOW would support those very same “institutionalized” descendents of the very slaves they helped free… EDUCATION and COMMON SENSE…

          • Jay7027

            Yeah you need both education AND common sense. Read the statement LBJ made about the civil rights movement. Then you’ll see what pawns the black community is being used as by the Dem party. That was 40 years ago NOT hundreds.

          • William Dunlap

            I agree with you!!! No doubt! The liberals are using blacks and illegals for pilitocal purposes! I’M CONSERVATIVE!!!! Whether 100s of years ago or as recently as the 60s (surely you don;t think that blacks would respect the Republican Party during the 60s when their heroes were JFK, RFK and MLK), you have to understand that their “institutionalism” will always trump common sense and logic… The only way Black people will wake up will be by myself and other Conservatives educating them on the liberal’s need to keep them thinking they’re “ENTITLED”… My best friend is from Chicago and he’s attending the Republican City Council meetings to get educated by it’s leadership… He too was a registered Liberal that is now a Conservative… That’s what education will do for you…

          • Jay7027

            well good luck to you, that’s a really steep up hill climb you have there. Changing people’s minds is not an easy thing to do. I hope that for the future of our country and the Black community you are successful in showing the way from oppression. I agree that rooting in a party title is a dangerous way to think. Like Reagan said, “I didn’t leave the Democratic party they left me”. MANY old school dems refuse to see how far the party has pulled away from honoring the Constitution. America needs a strong (at least) two party system in order for we the people to maintain the power. But we NEED those parties to ALL be devoted to upholding the Constitution.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            MAlcom X had it right as well. He was a work in progress . If you get the time get the youtube interviews with Malcom X and watch in chronological order. It is of no co incidence that JFK MLK and Malcolm X were murdered. And it would be easy to pin the murder of Malcom X on Islam, due to Malcom X being an Apostate. :)

          • stan schmunk

            The ones that freed the slaves were the 190,000+ USCTs.

          • 1936benz

            While I agree that the USCTs contributed to the emancipation of slaves during the Civil War, they were only a small part of the entire machine that was put into motion to defeat the Confederacy. To put it bluntly and honestly, horses contributed more to the Union victory than black troops. The Union could never have won the war without horses; because of the overwhelming disparity in population, industry and resources, the Union would have won without black troops anyway.

          • stan schmunk

            That’s the weirdest explanation I’ve ever heard. Lincoln credited the black Union troops with turning the tide. They were needed for many reasons including combat. And, no, there’s no guarantee that the Union would have won anyway. Otherwise, why would they bring in so many black troops?

          • KC

            To put it bluntly…that’s the biggest dickhead statement I’ve ever heard. Although Black Troops were not allowed to fight on many battle fields.. they filled important roles that helped turned the tide. You know.. the “unsexy” roles that don’t get written about in papers or painted and put on book covers! They performed garrison duty, drove wagons, cleared roads, put up telegraph lines, guarded prisoners, served on gunships, manned the picket lines, took part in foraging raids and on occasion fought in small skirmishes. They did alot of the dirty work that white troops felt they themselves didn’t sign up for. This freed up more white troops to serve in combat. In the end good strategy by Grant and Sherman and overwhelming numbers crushed the south…not fking horses …you jerk. Part of those overwhelming numbers were 180,000 Black Union reinforcements between 1863-1865. Had the south freed their slaves in 1861, gave them a reason to fight, and fully integrated them in their Army..there’d be two countries right now. Mainly because England and France would have intervened.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            The democratic party is a mess and they perpetuate lies.

          • dstudie

            No William, you have bought into the liberal democrat lies. The true Republicans are the same as those who fought to end slavery. That is why there are RINOS. They are not true Republicans. They are democrats who infiltrate the Republican party. We all know who these people are. Brainwashing is a technique perfected by the democrats over the decades. The democrat party has not changed at all from the old Confererates. They still enslave blacks only now they do it legally with welfare freebies and drugs. They still dictate to the blacks what to say and what to do through their house n****s, Jackson, Sharpton, and Hill and the gangsta rappers. Ferguson is a perfect example of the democrat plantation. The dems lied about the whole thing, the dem controlled press pushed the dem narrative and now the truth is coming out. But there are real Republicans out there fighting slavery to this day. As for education, it was and is the democrats who keep blacks and the under privileged uneducated through their centralized and complete control of the education system. You can’t easily control a truly educated man. The truth is, right now there is a power struggle within the democrats between the old southern Confederates and the new younger Fascists/Communists. One can only hope the whole evil party implodes on itself and self destructs.

          • B. Smoove Thompson

            Lincoln didn’t free the slaves. This article is fabricated propaganda Anthony Johnson was a slave when he arrived here read his Wikipedia story…here’s part of it btw indentured servitude is a form of slavery don’t be naive!!!!

            He arrived in Virginia in 1621 aboard the James. The Virginia Muster (census) of 1624 lists his name as “Antonio not given,” recorded as “a Negro” in the “notes” column.[2] There is some dispute among historians as to whether this was the Antonio later known as Anthony Johnson, as the census lists several “Antonios.” This one is considered the most likely.[3]

            Johnson was sold to a white planter named Bennet as an indentured servant to work on his Virginia tobacco farm. Servants typically worked under an indenture contract for four to seven years to pay off their passage, room, board, lodging and freedom dues. In the early colonial years, most Africans in the Thirteen Colonies were held under such contracts of indentured servitude. With the exception of those indentured for life, they were released after a contracted period with many of the indentured receiving land and equipment after their contracts expired or were bought out.[4].

          • William Dunlap

            Thanks! Great research B! I knew there was more to the story!

          • Travis

            Why the props he didn’t tell us anything that wasn’t in the article.
            If he could expound on why they would rather be slaves than go back to Africa that may garner so appreciation.

          • Jerry Dorsey

            He was a slave ALREADY so how could he be the first slave owner THATS the POINT AND they didn’t go back Maybe because you’de just be recaptured illegally and reenslaved all over again don’t be naive it happened to alot of so called FREE SLAVES learn some REAL HISTORY

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            An indentured servant was not a slave. They were paying back for their PASSAGE to come on their OWN FREE WILL! And Anthony got what he wanted. Then he screwed the Black Race! Period. Dont try and make it what it wasn’t. That is how history gets twisted and lies become truth. Anthony Johnson sold out with 3000 other Free Black families to follow.

          • Jane

            Only differance is slaves got free housing and great farm food and the other servants did not! So the blacks ate better and had free housing!

          • StEwPiD_MoNkEy

            Smh. Jerry. do you even have a clue what you are talking about.
            Anthony Johnson was the first slave owner to own a slave as property as decieded by the courts. Once he was freed from his indentured time, he became a slaver. Simple. There were many freemen blacks that owned slaves.

          • KC

            Define MANY.. Are we talking Millions? Where were they in the 1860’s when slavery was crushed? What is the agenda this group has by showing that one of the first slave owners was black? Did he pave the way for millions of other black slave owners? One s that owned whites and systematically oppressed them for centuries? If so then I get it. If not..then the point seems moot.

          • Jane

            And the whites you talk of were a handful of people in England, no one in N. America!

          • ANSLQ32

            Jerry, how did you read it wrong. Indentured servant is a contract. When the time is up, you are no longer indentured. Apparently you were paid at the end with land. Contrast that with indentured for life, ruled by a third party judge….now you have slavery. Real history still requires logic.

          • dstudie

            Johnson was not a slave nor was he ever a slave. He was a free man after paying off his indenturement. He was a land owner and after winning the case against Robert Parker, he became the first slave owner and breeder in the Americas. He had found a way to legally own a person forever. The slaves he kept on his land were not just black either. Anyone foolish enough to indenture themselves to Johnson ended up a slave. I guess you could say he was the first democrat.

          • jimsjeep

            Thanks for validating the story after just calling it propaganda ..duh..Which one of the “several” did you say? Oh..the one you think invalidates the historic record given by several as researched truth….Where do we get all of these great historians anyway

          • Roy Bryant

            Certainly not at Wikipedia.

          • Tyler Mitchell

            Umm Anthony Johnson owned over 1,000 black slaves…and at one time he was the only slave breeder in Virginia.Please get out a book and read it and don’t try and form your thoughts off wikipedia…gezz is that what the world is coming to?

          • amy lynn

            how come no one ever talks about The Barbary Slave Trade!???

          • KC

            Is the Anthony Johnson story a plot to throw dirt in the eye of Black people? To say that they were 100% responsible for their own slavery? Was Anthony Johnson not a descendant of slaves? Did he enslave himself? Or was that NOT done by the Portuguese man who purchased and impregnated his mom. Why is Anthony Johnson considered BLACK in the first place? Was he not half white? It’s the European race based slavery concepts that designed this whole scenario. So one of the first slave owners was what we term here in AMerica as Blacks. So what does that mean?

          • Roy Bryant

            ” . . . European race-based slavery concepts that designed this whole scenario . . .” ?!?!?!? Black Africans and white Europeans both were enslaved by Muslims for 700 years before the first Portuguese slave ship approached the West Africa coast. Those Portuguese slavers bought their black slaves from other black Africans, who had been enslaving each other, and selling each other to Muslim slavers, for centuries.

          • Nathan Lee

            ROFL. Your source of info is Wikipedia? Yeah real historians beg to differ with Wikipedia.

          • ANSLQ32

            Indentured for life? I have no doubt it happened, but what that says is a person VOLUNTEERED, they chose, to sell themselves for life. I see nothing in your research to refute the court cases.

          • mindurownbusiness

            Wikipedia is a horrible site, you cannot edit in any truth there if a serious topic they will just delete right away, stay way from that site if you want truth!

            Black, white, yellow or red I don´t care we all just humans and we all the same with equal value but the super filthy rich elites who run this world and push the demon-o-cracy are the liars that want us to fight each other. Let´s not, let´s educate each other and remove them once and for all so rest of us can live in peace and harmony with each other.

            Please by all means do history that´s great but do it from right sources, for example go grab old books cause they cannot be altered the same way as the internet and thus will set you free with real information.

            Not attacking you or disputing all your info, just adding to help others get valuable genuine information.

          • Roy Bryant

            Well said! The elitist-collectivists want us fighting with each other.

          • Ken

            WRONG! Anthony Johnson was an indentured servant, just like whites/indians/blacks, for a limited numbers of years. Once Anthony Johnson’s servitude was over he become free just like other whites/indians/blacks.

            Slavery for LIFE is what Anthony Johnson sued for and created here in America. Blacks in Africa to this day still own slaves and even make soup out of Albino Blacks in Africa. The fact of life today is that the more blacks a city has the more crime it has, while the less blacks a city the less crime it has.

          • Chukky

            Ken, the fact is , the more poor you have within a town or city, be it black or white thats going to be a high crime area, All down through the age of first borne Man, he has transformed to survival, its the nature of man as well as animals, its not rocket science , give a man decent job to provide for his self and family and 90% he won;t be out in the street looking to rob and steel from his neighbor,I also like to ask this of you so called good Christian white people, HOW MANY BLACKS WORK AT THE PLACE WHERE YOU WORK… I REST MY CASE.

          • Jane

            Servitude was for 7 years and there was no pay. They got food, shelter and a few pieces of clothing. IT WAS TO PAY FOR THEIR WAY INTO AMERICA.

          • amy lynn

            and no one ever talks about the Barbary Slave Trade?

          • dstudie

            The Barbary slave trade was an abomination where European slavers paid tribes in Africa to prey on weaker tribes, steal their people and sell them to rich European households. When slavery became legal in the Americas with Johnson’s victory in court, a new market opened up for the Barbary slave traders. There. Does that make you feel better Amy?

          • Roy Bryant

            Wrong! Black Africans enslaved each other, and sold each other to Muslim slavers for 700 years before the first European slaver bought a black African slave from another black African. And, during that 700 years, Muslims were also enslaving white Europeans.

          • stedman holder

            Moron.

          • Dove

            FFS pick up a dictionary!
            indentured servant definition. A person under contract to work for another person for a definite period of time, usually without pay but in exchange for free passage to a new country. During the seventeenth century most of the white laborers in Maryland and Virginia came from England as indentured servants.
            In other words, you were “paid” via transportation before you worked! If a contract means slavery to you then do you even work like the rest of us do?

          • dstudie

            Anthony Johnson was not a slave. He was an indentured servant which is a totally different thing. Being indentured means you borrowed money from someone to pay for your passage to the Americas. For that you agreed to work for that person for up to seven years to pay off that debt. Once the debt was paid, you were freed and given land. With slavery, on the other hand, you are sold to another person who now owns you forever. There is no time limit on slavery. That is what happened in the case of Anthony Johnson. He was an indentured servant who paid off his debt, received his land, and then proceeded to enslave John Casor who had legally paid his debt back to Johnson and left. Johnson went to court and lied and ended up enslaving Casor for the rest of his life. So you see, if it were not for Anthony Johnson, slavery probably would not have become an institution in America. I say that because there were plenty of blacks and whites willing to indenture themselves to get to America. It was a system which was working rather well, until Johnson ended it. Johnson reminds me of the blacks in the CBC, and the democrat party today willing to enslave people for their own selfish ends.

          • Kevin Shepard

            Racist Margret Sanger and Susan G. Komen in 1982 by Nancy Brinker two years after her sister died of breast cancer and originally called the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation. This name was later changed to Susan G. Komen for the cure after the success of nationwide “Race for the cure”.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Guest, you showed your stupidity in the first few words of your first sentence. Enough said. You’re not worth any further comment.

          • Offgrid Cabin

            IRA (Irish Republican Army) was established to fight for Irish independence from British rule starting in 1913 and being formerly established as the IRA in 1919. It had NOTHING to do with America or racism. Carl McGee, please study history. Your name suggests that you are decended from Irish forefathers. Knowing Irish history would help you not make this mistake again.

          • Nick Ford

            The IRA fuss was a division between the Protestants and Catholics, as well as a division between People who wanted to be independent of Britton and those who were happy to be one of the British Isles, What does that have to do with Irish slavery in colonial America? The only reason there were black slaves is because they ran out of Irish and the poor to sell. The only thing the Irish had a upper hand over the blacks was they could loose an accent and blend in, But then the first slave holder was a black man so who is responsible for the slavery in this country

          • Jane

            England killed off 9 million Irish people. The Irish were slaves from 1500-1800. Check out the bibary coast (arab pirates). It was always the arabs who ran the slaves trades people, not whites!

          • amy lynn

            funny when black people always bring up slavery (as if they personally experienced it) you never hear about the Barbary Slave trade, Black people owned white slaves way before black slaves came to America! From 1500 to 1650, the number of white European slaves greatly exceeded black Africans taken as slaves to the Americas. Less than 2% of Whites in America ever owned slaves! Only 5% of the black slaves transported across the Atlantic actually went to the modern U.S. Most in fact went to Latin America to serve Hispanic slave-owners. But we don’t look at modern Hispanics as evil slave-owners. ALL races kept slaves throughout history! It was Arab Muslims and Black Africans themselves who captured members of rival tribes and took them to the coastal slave-markets to sell to the Whites and Jews. White people didn’t go into Africa and kidnap free black people. They barely needed to get off their ships to buy slaves, it was like buying McDonalds at a drive-through. everyone NEEDS to learn about “The Barbary Slave Trade” European Christian slaves were often worked just as hard and as lethally – in quarries, in heavy construction, and above all rowing the corsair galleys themselves, women were sex slaves! stripped naked and sold in markets! This was more brutal than working on a plantation or as a domestic servant! this invisible slavery of European Christians deserves more attention from scholars!!! Whites were the first people to stop slavery in modern times, whereas slavery still continues in Africa to this day!

          • Madeline Brashear

            Yes, I read that in Ireland, the Irish ate breakfast and then went off to war just like they were going to a job. I wonder why they did that?

          • William Dunlap

            You’re uneducated…

          • Freddy Privett

            BAM!!!

          • Chukky

            They, , will never understand, you must forgive them because they are blinded by over 400 years of bigotry and demonod hate, its their way copping with within their self;s all the evil that their ancestors have passed down through their bloodlines, it shows how misinform they can be when you convey a few moments in your life about being a black man in America and all you get back is talk about being Irish, forgive me , but I had to laugh , its like I was bitten by a lion but don;t worry about me, cause you was bitten by a house cat.

          • Metalmoto

            Thank you “Chukky” for further proving my point. Keep responding and showing your racism.

          • Jane

            And when england took over Ireland, the Irish people had to sleep in their barns with their animals and were only allowed to eat potatoes and cabbage on their own land. And the english charged them rent! And if they owed money and were seen outside after sunset, they were taken to work in slave labour camps in australia and other commonwealth places for 3 years.

          • Jane

            The truth shall set you free. Presently there is still slavery going on in africa, africans enslaving their own people and other tribes. Guess where these slaves go if they are lucky enough to escape ISRAEL, the only democratic nation to defend them.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Methhead Metalmoto, a person does not have to be of a “woe is me” victimized mentality to acknowledge facts about the slavery of people of African descent and its aftermath to this day on people of African descent. So what’s your problem with acknowledging it, scholar?

          • Carl McGee

            Well said…

          • jimsjeep

            Go looking for it and you will find it…You apparently see prejudice under every rock….Too bad for you

        • Carl McGee

          *Looking at you for acting like a moron…

        • grant boye

          you really have no idea what you are saying and i won’t fault you for your ignorance. you really don’t know how privilege your lilly white ass is. i can recall when i was 20 an officer pulled me over for no apparent reason and asked me if i had any drugs in vehicle and how a young man as myself could afford such a nice car. i told him to look at the air force base sticker on my front windshield; thats how i pay for my car and i didn’t have time for drugs; to busy defending my country. 20 years later pulled over, on my way to surgery, only to have my scrotum grabbed by texas state trooper, told me not to move he could take that as me reaching for his weapon; . no man should have to experience that. I don’t feel like I’m owed anything but the right to live as a man, veteran and a productive citizen of the country i signed my life in blood on a dotted line for. you can keep your “angry white-man on viagra” talking points. save them for your klan rally

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            First of all Thank you so very much for your service. You have my respect. You are angry and have a right to be angry. BUT, you have to deal with the agency. These cops suck !!! I was a military Brat then a Military Wife. We did not see color. When we moved to Florida when my father retired I was slapped in the face with Racism on both sides. I was so used to Marine MPS and fit Military LEs . They performed with respect and firm finesse,The civilian cops I see today are whack a doodles and out of shape. If they are in shape they are looking like they are on steroids. . . So stop being so nasty with people who tell it like they see it. I saw chips on the shoulders too. I was in culture shook. yes …WHITE people are seeing this abuse of power. And what has happened to our country as a whole with Incarceration rates. The young Black male has taken the brunt of it. Families have fallen away… :( .MAlcom X warned of this! It is painful to have been sold out as a race. Just think, it started out with a Black man, Anthony Johnson. Then it fell onto African Tribes to sell other tribes out to slave buyer. Sure KKK was evil an murderous. They killed Blacks an Whites that disagreed. and the Natives The KKK was handled. It is in the underground . But now we have New Black Panthers. Muslim converts, Most likely from Prisons. Doing what KKK did. I wouldn’t blame you and call you a NBP. Though, :) You are angry enough. It will do you no good to rant off like an verbally attack as you did. Be happy you may live to see the day that we as Americans Black ,White, Asian, Hispanic, Indian pull together and work to change this disgraceful behavior you have had to endure. Tomorrow is another dy an it will be better future for our children:) Because of how we treat each other from today on out.

          • Equeslover

            May I share your thoughts…they are pretty right on…

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            You can use anything that you wish. If you find a discrepancy please let me know. I am open to learning.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Michele Yeac Brantley Johnson, don’t you know that these groups of black people you’re whining about are only trying to DEFEND themselves from white racists and they have that right and also obligation. The New Black Panther Party you speak of is actuall called The New Black Panther Party For Self Defense. You do understand the word “self”, don’t you? That means that if you attack me, I whup your ass myself. Muslim is a religion(Islam) and I don’t know what it is that you’re trying to make it out to be. Neither of these groups are doing what the KKK did and does,no matter how whites label these organizations. A label given by whites bears the utmost examination before anyone should accept it. As long as it’s the black people who are getting kicked around it’s okay but when white folks start getting retaliated against, in kind, they start labeling the people who give them back what they gave them. That’s all it boils down to. Just leave black people alone, in peace, and deal fairly with them and there will be no problem. That’s something white folks haven’t done in the history of this country. Don’t start none, won’t be none.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            Shut up. Be Islamic and wear a Hijab and get a first hand on site education on present day Slavery. Then if your allowed to write about it:) you can be a VIABLE source of information. But you wont cause your weak.. Most important is you will not be allowed to write about it. So NO ONE will ever know.

          • StEwPiD_MoNkEy

            I served as well. Navy. 6 yrs. Medical discharge. Check more your surroundings vs skin color. I know plenty of white people that have had that happen.
            also, your reference to someone’s lily white ass shows that your are a bigot at the end of the day.

          • Madeline Brashear

            StEwPiD, Grant Boye’s post does not show anything about bigotry. In the context of what he’s talking about [WHITE PRIVILEGE], it takes a lily white ass to be the recipient of it. Nobody is extended white privilege except white people.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            SHut up

          • skinsBlackequalNotRacistyeahri

            Yeah? Well 72 people think you don’t know what your saying.
            You’re a racist, and the color of your skin won’t excuse you.

          • dstudie

            It is time you opened your eyes and saw past your own prejudices and saw the world as it really is. Running around screaming racism all the time is stupid and self defeating. Labeling things is self-defeating. It is the one profound mistake cultures always make. It is only through education and the willingness to seek enlightenment that things change and humans advance. Burying one’s self in labels and feelings is a path to nowhere.

          • Madeline Brashear

            skinsBlackequalINotRacistyeahri, a black racist is an impossibility and an oxymoron. And you [sound like] a straight up moron. Educate yourself from a reliable source on what makes a racist.

          • Trudi

            I was asked by a few police officers in a small town how I could afford to own such a nice car too, and I am a white female. I accidentally almost hit the sheriff of the town head on as I was traveling on a -way highway and could not see in the pitch black that night. I could not see at all, I mean at all! I was really lost and just wanted to tune around & go back to the highway. So..don’t use that black thing here. They asked me if I was drunk, I walked their straight line several times. They asked me if I was smoking anything? They poured out all of the water bottles I had in the back seat too, all water. I was just plain old lost and could not see! So, as you can see, I made more money than they did as a white female. That was in 1988. I did hire a lawyer though. I had to make a donation of $1,000.00 to their police fund and never travel near their town again, which I did not.

          • Greg Hensley

            It’s Not just Blacks that go through that. I am White and go through that myself.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Greg Hensley, I might THINK you go through what a black person goes through but YOU DON’T.

          • Greg Hensley

            I have been discriminated Against. And you don’t have any idea what I have been through. Saying just because I’m white I can’t be discriminated against is idiotic. That is the Single, Most Ignorant Comment I have ever heard. Tell the Holocaust Survivors that they weren’t discriminated against. They were White.!! And if your talking about Slavery, Then No-one Alive today no matter what color they are know what they went through. But there are People that went through the Holocaust that are still alive.!!

          • KC

            I’m not one to define what race has it worse than the other. Plenty of white people get discriminated against by other white people.Although, In general its not because theyou are white that they face the discrimination . That’s the disconnect. There are also some minorities that discriminate against whites. It DOES happen. Funny though how whites complain just as loud when they feel discriminated against as black people do. Yet I see no one on here is telling white people to get over it.

          • Jane

            So blacks should be thanking the irish people who lost half their population by being forced to fight in civil war to end slavery!! Where are irish people’s affirmative action programs, we do not have any!! It was only the english who were the bad whites.

          • Loved it

            I say this all of the time and you would be amazed at how many people do NOT know that the Irish were treated worse than the blacks!!!!

          • Rich White Man

            The fact that you have to say “the blacks” instead of referring to them as to their origin like u did the Irish shows that they weren’t treated worse….also I don’t remember Irish men being declared sub human to circumvent the democratic constitution we still live in today…

          • Loved it

            This coming from a person who calls themselves Rich White Man? Your comment makes no sense, since I said “the blacks” and “the Irish”. What would you have liked that I call them? Coloreds? Negros? You are grasping at straws trying to create trouble. If you knew your history, you would know that “Irish men” were treated worse than “black men” when it came to jobs and pay. Read up on the Molly Maguires, who they were, how they were treated, and ultimately what they were accused of.

          • Rich White Man

            I still don’t remember the laws that stated Irishman less than human just to trick a free nation into be living in slavery….do you..?

          • Loved it

            Did you look up the Molly Maquires? The Irish worked in the coal mines and were given “company” money to spend in the company stores, nowhere else. They took the jobs thinking they were going to get ahead, but instead were forced into spending all of their money, plus some, in the company stores, keeping them in poverty and treated worse than slaves. Signs hung in businesses saying “no Irish allowed”. Also, Four months before the first blacks landed on American shores, Great Britain shipped the first 100 slaves to Jamestown. White children……yet we don’t hear anything about this do we?

          • KC

            Slavery of any kind is horrible. However indentured servitude was not lifelong race based slavery. Those are two separate things. And just because YOU didnt learn this in school doesnt mean it’s not common knowledge that the Irish were treated like crap here by the English. Many many many people are aware of that… so you can rest easy.

            I would ask… that since the Irish were so abused and mistreated…why did they insist on further mistreating and abusing black freedmen and slaves? The Irish were well known for their bigotry against their fellow “enslaved” black brethren. Those that fought for the south were often first to murder captured black union soldiers…and in the north they were the primary instigators of the murders of over 100 free blacks in the NYC draft riots. The Irish burned black orphanages and hung men of color in the streets. When was this done to the Irish in America for being Irish? When did people of color commit these atrocities against the Irish? I will say that NOT ALL Irish participated in this behavior. In fact many were wise enough to realize that the plight of the black man and the poor Irish were one in the same. Some Irish whom fought for the Union did so not just to preserve the Union or prove their manhood… some fought because they understood the plight of the slave, and due to their own often inhuman treatment by the British, empathized with the plight of the Blacks. Unfortunately though this was a small number. Such were the times.

          • Loved it

            Who said these Irish folk were indentured servants when they were treated worse than the blacks? They were not. And who the hell said anything about me not learning it in school? I have two bachelors degrees and I am working on my masters. What do you have? And what do you mean “by the English”? Are you even from this country or are you just here sticking your nose in being a troll? Where are you facts to back up your statements that the Irish burned the black people?? You know what, don’t bother answering. I read through the rest of your comments that have mysteriously begun to appear on this page and every one of them screams troll.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Loved it, no Irishmen were chattell slaves. History says it. they were indentured slaves. Had they been chattell slaves they would have still been enslaved as long as people of African descent were enslaved without a break in their time of slavery. There’s a difference in indentured slaves and chattell slaves. Study
            !

          • Loved it

            This just proves what an idiot you are. They were FREE MEN. Not indentured slaves. If you took the time to look into the history on sites that are credible, you would see that. But you would rather troll on here spewing your idiocy. And I will not respond to any more of your stupidity. You have a NURSING education, not a history education. Now buzz off.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            :) Amen to that. I think she should fess up if she has a time travel gadget. MADeline can adorn the Hijab and then feel the SLAVERY and Y wait??? She thinks Islam is a Religion. and defends it.:) She hasnt got that stamina or Moxy

          • Jane

            The Irish were enslaved much longer than blacks- for 300 years from 1500 to 1800. Ever hear of galley slaves?

          • treynich87

            How about the Barbary Slave Trade?

          • Jane

            Yes 1500- 1800 ran by the moslems!…. 1 million Irish slaves, there were scottish slaves also as well as slaves from england.

          • treynich87

            Exactly. People don’t seem to bring that part of history up, when people like to talk about slavery, and act like blacks have had it so hard.

          • KC

            Buddy. ..this is my first and last response to you.
            1) Just because someone challenges the ridiculous posts on this page that does NOT make them a troll.

            2) I am 100% American. I guarantee by the blood of my ancestors that I’m more American than you are.

            3) I could care less about your bachelor’s degrees or the masters you’re working on. Especially if during that educational training you developed the notion that you can determine which slaves had it worse. As if you were there. A wise man would make no judgements on that unless he’d experienced both Irish and Black Slavery. An unwise man…(perhaps one with two useless college degrees) would share their useless opinion online about something that could never be proven,and consequently make himself look like a racist. Yep…just like regular old right wing bigot… Bent on mocking the slavery experience of one race in favor of another. Utterly ridiculous.

            4)Do me a favor and don’t even bother responding because I won’t read it. You’re better off blocking me ,moving on, and wasting more $ on an education that’s clearly taught you nothing of value.

          • Loved it

            I am not a buddy and if I was a man I wouldn’t be your buddy. I didn’t read passed your first couple of sentences because I already dismissed your asinine theories yesterday. Screw off and don’t bother responding. You dare to take about people with different opinions, yet you attack everyone here who has differing opinions than yours. You are an idiot. Look up the definition or have someone do it for you since you don’t seem to know how. Adios moron!

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            What the Hell was all that about???? Y did you even waste your time?

          • Hope Forpeace

            Here’s your video proving it was not Vera that knocked Phelim’s hat off. NPR shut our convo down, so I had to post it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKfiGeJJaqE

          • treynich87

            Look up the Barbary Slave Trades, KC. You need to brush up on some facts, rather than thinking Whites were never slaves. Barbary Slave Trades were worse than anything blacks had to endure in America.

          • KC

            Not once did I day that whites never experienced slavery. Not once! I understand your need to pitch in on these boards and sound important…but please go somewhere else and sit down. You bring zero value to the discussion.

          • treynich87

            First, this board is for anyone to post opinion and fact, whether you like it or not. Second, I bring much value to this discussion, so what you need to do is drink a gallon of gas and eat a lit match. You are an imbecile if you have to resort to rude remarks, because you do not like what I had to say. You talking about how rough the blacks have it. They haven’t had s hit as rough as many other races have had it throughout history. So, why don’t you take your White guilt b.s. somewhere else, like to a bathtub and drop a plugged in toaster into the tub with you.

          • KC

            You sound like a real num nut. Is that the best you can do is ramble on and threaten my life? Is that all you have? If so…you sound pathetic. I’ve never said one race had it better or worse as slaves. If u read through my posts on here, my chief argument is that no one has the right to say one slave experience was worse than the other. I merely pointed out distinct differences . However folks like you that are clearly psychotic right wingers, that feel they are losing a grip on America and hate minorities, love to twist it into something offensive against the white man. As if the white man needs YOU to defend him. You trying to “devalue” black slavery in favor of Irish Slavery just because you’re “tired of black people ” makes you a 100% hypocritical ,atypical, assbackwards,psychotic ,right winger. But it’s oK. The clock for folks like you is ticking down. You are losing your grip on the country..and it angers you. I get it…and I take pleasure in that.

          • treynich87

            I take pleasure in knowing that you think I’m pissed. You mad when someone points out statistics, LOLOLZ. Lol, rightwinger? Playing the politics card now? I’m neither a left nor right winger. Both of them are the same. Since you are too naive to understand that, I’m not surprised that you are dumb enough to bring politics into a non-political forum. Keep getting mad. Your blood pressure’s going to raise, bro.

          • treynich87

            lol, politics. How funny. Oh, he tells the truth, he must be an insane right winger. That is hysterical.

          • treynich87

            To be perfectly clear, like Washington, I have no political affiliation.

          • treynich87

            Please, just drink cyanide.

          • clkfrau1

            EXACTLY……..Such WERE the times……..

          • Madeline Brashear

            Oh please, loved it!! Your story doesn’t begin to compare with the African’s story in America! Do you know about theAfrican share croppers’ plight, even after emancipation??? Do you understand that the African was forced back into slavery (although they didn’t call it slavery) by the white man even after the Africans were freed by Lincoln? Man, you just don’t know w hat you’re talking about. How did the whtie man force the Africans back into slavery. Because the white man controlled EVERYTHING, just like they do today. They manipulated the laws and passed new laws that made it impossible for the African to survive. How many laws do you suppose were written SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CONTROL AND DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF THE IRISH PEOPLE??? Now contrast that with how many laws were written SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CONTROL AND DISENFRANCHISEMENT OF AFRICAN and continue to be written to this day. they white man has kept the African in slavery by means of unjust legislation by white men.

          • Loved it

            Did I say it trumped it? NO. The point was that the blacks are not the only ones to hvae gone through slavery. How about the Chinese? Do you see any other race crying the blues STILL?? The past it the past. We learned from it, yet many blacks will not let it rest. They are fighting the fight when there is no more fight. The white man passed laws that made it impossible for the blacks to survive? LMAO! Now that is FUNNY! So I supposed when the Civil War was over (which by the way has been over for 150 years now, so I think it’s safe for you to move on) the blacks that stayed with their families, because they were actually taken care of VERY WELL, did it because they were made to? You are a nut case. Try taking a MODERN History class and see what you might learn.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            AGAIN THANK ANTHONY JOHNSON he started it in during the Colonial days BIG jump to being RICH. :) GReed comes in ALL Shades of the Human BODY.

          • treynich87

            How about the Barbary Slave Trades, too?

          • Madeline Brashear

            Of course there were no such laws. The worship of white skin in America has become their chief source of idolatry and it is their most difficult vice to rid themselves of.

          • clkfrau1

            seriously…..

          • treynich87

            Barbary Slave Trades. White people were not criminals who were sold out by their own people, but rather taken by force.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Loved it, there’s no rational way you can compare the treatment of the Irish with those black people of African descent. If you think the Irish were treated worse than Africans, you would never have survived in the African’s shoes in those times.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            MADeline you are a whack job. You keep trying to FORCE your Ideology on people. The people here are more in touch with reality than yourself. ISLAM is NOT A RELIGION. and When that MOSLEM MAN wants you to convert go ahead and put that SLAVE HIJAB on your body. Then you will see Slavery in a whole different scenario. The New Black Panthers are Moslem and they have pissed off the Original Black Panthers. They want their name back. You come off like you are some MAjor Historian trhat can say JUDGE who suffered the most of Slavery. Piss off.

          • Greg Hensley

            I guess because your talking about a time period not today. Today we Call Irish Americans just “Americans”. You might say they have Irish Descent. But we don’t call them Irish Americans. Also Most of them were Irish. They came over on a Boat. And the Blacks were Born in America at this Time. No New Arrivals. Look up history. I myself think it’s very disrespectful to call Black People “African American”. I myself am Not European American. I am Just a American? Why can’t everyone Be Just “Americans”. Maybe then things would get better here in America between everyone.

          • KC

            Greg…in your opinion why do you think African Americans refer to themselves as African Americans?

          • clkfrau1

            Because it has become a habit after hearing the likes of Jesse and Al dogging the ‘divide’ between races. If folks would just STOP beating the Race Card drum, the issues would be able to simmer down and the caucasian idiots wouldn’t have anything to say and the non-caucasian idiots wouldn’t either. It would take another 50 years, but if the children don’t hear their parents negativity about other people, they WON’T LEARN prejudice (and ‘racism’ will die out). Jesse, Al and their ilk, will be out of jobs.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            This makes sense:) Time to look forward than backwards.

          • Greg Hensley

            It’s many different Reasons. Not ALL Blacks do this for the same reason. My Best friend that was Black and he’s Dead Now. Would Never consider himself “African American”. He considered himself “American” just the Same as Me. We both are in Fact the Same. We are “Americans”. And really who cares what Color we are. Color shouldn’t matter. What matters is how we treat each other.

          • Madeline Brashear

            You’r exactly right, Rich White Man. People should be referred to according to their place of origin and not the color of the skin. What people recognize as people of African descent in America, they call black people, not stopping to realize or accept that “black people” were the original people ALL OVER THE EARTH at the time when there was no such thing as white people anywhere on the earth. Black people were the original builders of civilization and the originators of every discipline we have in the world today. The white race deals in pure fantasy that they have made to be the reality because they had the power to make their fantasies a reality. However, reality still looms over their fantasy, however subtle and obscure, and they fear it.

          • DCF

            Can you name ONE thriving African city that was built without white intervention before I can name TEN that receive aid and food from America?

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            Damn how old are you???

          • Greg Hensley

            The Chinese were treated the worse of them All…

          • Madeline Brashear

            Loved it, they don’t know it because it’s not true.

          • KC

            Madeline it’s not worth responding to these folks . They are lost. They think black people are “crying the blues” over slavery. The level of arrogance that it takes to even think like that means that they must come from a long long line of unwavering arrogance and bigotry. There’s no helping them. We can only be thankfully that they are losing a grip on this great nation and that the majority of them will be dying off over the next 20-30 years

          • Howdeo

            What about the Native Americans? Eh!

          • Bobby

            english, spanish, dutch, german….

          • dstudie

            You logic is lost on me. There were Irish Brigades on both sides of the war. Both fought for reasons they thought were valid. It was not so much about slavery for the Irish. It was about breaking down the old hierarchies. The Irish who fought on both sides remembered the English in Ireland and how they were treated by the English land owners and the powerful Irish landowners who enslaved them, hanged them, shot them and stole their family farms. They came to America to escape that life and found it just as bad here. The Irish who fought for the North opposed slavery of any kind and how all poor southerners were treated.The Irish who fought for the south believed they were fighting for the same thing, to be free from shackles of who they saw as the Northern powerful elites dictating to them how they should live their lives. They were wrong of course. In the end, it was the Irish and the Germans who moved west into the new slavery free territories that built America. They were the ones who fought the Indians, built the cities, the farms, the railroads and the roads. They fought the Spanish-American War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam, the Gulf War and the war on terror. The Irish are still fighting for America. The Irish have a rich heritage in America. To my mind, the worst thing to come out of the Civil war was the loss of States Rights and the formation of a centralized dictatorial power base called the Federal Government. It was the beginning of the loss of identity for people. They were no longer Virginians, Pennsylvanians, Texans or Marylanders. They were now Americans who owed their allegiances not to their homes and families in their states but to a foreign government in the District of Columbia which is not even part of America. It was the Democrats who quickly took control of the new government and assisted the south in creating stealth slavery with the help of the KKK and other groups still loyal to the old Confederacy. Unfortunately, blacks joined the wrong side and re-enslaved themselves. It is worth noting that the first slave owner in the Americas was a black man. http://conservative-headlines.com/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/. It is sad that history is no longer taught to our children. There is an old truth, those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

          • KC

            Dstudie you had me all the way till I got to the bottom of your post. States Rights are often use to abuse the poor and minorities. The states blew it. I’m not for huge government either… but every day states come up with laws that worsen the plight of the poor, the gay and the minority. When the states start getting out of control I’m glad that there’s a central power to keep them in line. I’m from a great state, but from an even BETTER country. And Blacks did not align themselves with the democrats until the 1960’s. They gave the republicans 100 years of loyalty and were at many times failed by them. I’m no democrat, but as an observer it’s easy to see that the democratic party has done a much better job of aligning with the basic ideals of the poor and minorities. The Republican part is extremely preachy. They seem to think they know whats best for the poor and minorities and how they should live their lives… but never do anything (since the Civil War) to help them.

          • dstudie

            Then you obviously have been in a deep coma for your entire life or you are just plain stupid. At the end of the Civil War, the Republicans set about restructuring the south to live without slavery. States Rights was no longer an issue. States had no rights. The Democrats in turn created the KKK which is alive and well in America today only now it’s called the Democrat Party. It’s purpose all along has been to re-enslave the blacks and the rest of America. They have been doing it since the war through their socialist programs like welfare and the re-education(brainwashing) of blacks and hispanics. Roosevelt took it to new levels of cruelty with his new deal. Blacks never really aligned themselves with any party until the 60’s, that part is true, but after the Civil Rights act was passed by the Republicans in Congress to again free the slaves, it was signed by Johnson, a Democrat. Johnson laughed and remarked, “Now I’ll have those n****s voting Democrat for the next 200 years.” And, once again slavery was alive and well in America. His prediction has come all too true. It is sad that so many blacks have chosen to align themselves with their slave masters. The Democrats only see the blacks as a cash cow to be milked of everything they can get from them. Your statement that the Republicans did nothing to help blacks after the war is a lie. They were the only ones to help them. Many Republicans were hanged and shot in the south and the new west by Democrats for helping them. The Democrats still sought to re-enslave blacks. The Democrat party has in recent years done it’s level best to get rid of the Constitution, take over every aspect of American’s lives, and basically turn America into the Soviet Union. The Democrats have aligned themselves with the Communist party, the Fascist party and various other left wing organizations (Nazis, Oligarchs, Muslims) in their never ending thirst for power and money. Do I trust Democrats? Not for one second. I really consider them traitors to the Union, the flag, the Constitution, and the American way of life which they are so diligently destroying. My people were the Republican Irish who came here for a better life. Yours it seems, came here to carry on the proud tradition of dictatorship, sedition and cruelty of the aristocracy that so many Irishmen sought to escape only now it’s the aristocracy of the Democrat party we seek to escape. Their corruption is beyond measure.

          • KC

            Like I said…I’m no Democrat. But many know that the republican party used blacks as pawns as well. Only when emancipation became a weapon of war did Lincoln free them. Before that only the most radical wing of the Republican party gave a damn about people of color. Although the republicans can be applauded for Emancipation and the 13th ammendment etc….they soundly failed the Blackman with the 1877 compromise. Removing soldiers from the south in a backroom deal that basically reenslaved blacks for another 90 years. The republican party is just as guilty as the democrats. Yet today they like to preach about how the black man should live their lives …as if they know what’s best for people of color. All the while mocking him and telling the blk man to GET OVER the abuse and oppression that THEY
            (republicans )helped to perpetuate when the Blackman became useless to the republican party after the civil war. They literally sold him down the river and told them to get over it. Smh.

          • KC

            Call the democratic the KKK if that makes you feel better. But I’m pretty sure that the party with a Black President,that respects the right to gay marriage and will most likely run a female for president in 2016, has significantly less KKK membership than the Republikkkan party.

          • dstudie

            I can see ignorance and stupidity is your long suit so I will press the matter no more. You are too brainwashed by the democrats and their wholly owned lame stream media to see reality. I really feel sorry for you. People like you are why our Constitutional Rights are under attack today. You don’t think with your brain. Keep towing the party line until they have taken every freedom away from you.

          • KC

            So quick to question my intelligence because I don’t align with your pychotic line of thinking. Anyone who chooses either party over the other instantly looses credibility in my book. I merely stated a fact, which you ignored (like most republicans do ) that your party is guaranteed to have more KKK membership than the democrats. In fact I guarantee it’s true. Republicans have unfortunately swapped roles with the Democrats of old. You have become the party of the bigoted conservative white male. A party that America has proven its tired of. The funny thing is I am no democrat! Yet they arr the lesser of 2 idiots and 2 evils. A dwarf among midgets One might say. And until the republican party takes their 19th century ideals and dies off …unfortunately democrats will continue to win.

          • dstudie

            And you are quick to buy into the leftist mantra that the parties have swapped sides which is a blatant lie. Grow a brain. It’s people like you who spread these vicious lies and fascist democrat propaganda that are destroying our country. You have become the enemy of the people. But intelligent people see through your lies. We all know what you are all about. We see people like you in Ferguson and Baltimore inciting riots and looting. Why not just admit it? You hate this country and the freedom we Americans love.

          • KC

            This post, as your previous post is laughable. My blood makes me more American than you. My family did not “immigrate” here. My family had their land stolen by people that look, talk and think just like you. My family has fought and served to protect this nation. We love this nation. Even though it’s full of out dated,self righteous bigots like yourself. Like I said… I know you look around you and see you’re a dying breed. It has to be scary for you. The people have spoken.. and they don’t want bigotry and oppression here anymore. And no I’d never fuel riots in Ferguson and Baltimore. But bigots like you do. The same prejudice some of these cops have for people of color, the quickness to write them off, to murder them, call them “animals”… yep.. (we already know that’s your stance) that’s what fuels people to riot. I don’t advocate rioting. I advocate the slow painful political death of any party that supports an ideology like the when you’ve shared. Rioting is not the way to get there… but it sure seems to actually capture yalls attention. Perhaps in the future you’ll actually listen so these folks dont have to feel that the only way to be heard is to riot??????

          • dstudie

            I’d say the only bigot here is yourself. So far, you have not said anything that the left doesn’t spout on a daily basis. It seems the only people who are spewing their bigotry is the totally intolerant left. You, on the other hand, should really study up on history. It’s hard to find these days as the left has re-written much of it to suit their warped thinking and anti-American agenda. But if you really dig you can find the truth. I grew up around the Native Americans and have family that are Native American. I do not like what happened to the American Indian any more than I like having my freedoms taken away by the leftist democrats. This country is in trouble for sure, but not from the right. It will be the fascists, communists, oligarchs and nazis on the left that are tearing it apart using the homosexuals and blacks to bring about a new day of total slavery in what was once a free nation.

          • Vandal111

            Johnson also stated that signing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 had lost the South to the Republicans for a generation. That turned out to be a gross understatement. Those same racist Democrats in the early sixties are now Republicans. Johnson did the right thing and part of it could be argued as to being for the wrong reason.

          • dstudie

            I just love your revisionist view of history. It’s wrong of course but very imaginative. The democrat party hasn’t changed in the last 200 years. Their goal is to reinstate slavery, and it’s working unfortunately. They now have 50 percent of the country on welfare and out of work and a muslim puppet in the WH.

          • Vandal111

            No revisionist history here except on your part. Slavery was secondary to states rights as the cause of the Civil War and the war had been going on some time before the Emancipation Proclamation. The South was conservative then and remains that way now. No one is denying that the Democrat South was racist, but the Democrat North Democrats were mostly liberal.during those times along with the Republicans who were by today’s standards liberal.. Those Democrats in the South changed to Republicans after the Civil Rights Acts partially because they believed it went against states rights and most likely primarily because of racism. I suppose it could be argued either way successfully. I suppose your mentioning that the KKK is still a Democrat organization means in your mind that the boys and girls there voted for Obama. Good luck with that one.

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          • KC

            Haha! Exactly Vandal111. You re spot on. But this guys is completely indoctrinated and deluded by the far right. He hears nothing you say because it’s actually realistic and makes sense. In the word’s Duck Commander… “He Gone”.

          • Vandal111

            You can’t reason with willful ignorance but it can be fun trying.

          • dstudie

            You really have no idea what is going on in this country or the world at all do you?

          • Vandal111

            Sure I do. I just don’t allow myself to succumb to hatred as you on the far right seem to relish doing. Hatred closes ones mind to reality and you sir are a prime example of this.

          • dstudie

            No, you don’t. You are as blind as you can be. You will pay in the end for your ignorance and stupidity along with the rest of us for your mistakes. Have you not been watching the news? Do you not see what is happening in Ferguson and Baltimore and other democrat cities across America? It is calculated and organized anarchy. It is all designed for one purpose. If you can’t see it, or you participate in it, then you are part of the problem. The left is all about disarming America. It is all about destroying jobs and taxing the people into the poor house. It is all about destroying the Constitution. They are all bout race war, and race baiting. There is not one leftist democrat policy that isn’t designed to do just that. Have you ever read Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand? You should. That is what happened in the Soviet Union and now it is happening here. Read it. Try to understand it. Rand lived it.

          • Vandal111

            I’ve read Atlas Shrugged along with three others written by Rand. So What? Of course I’m sure you know she was an avowed atheist and a drug user. Since you try to come across in your posts as someone who believes he is an expert in everything, I am wondering why you bother to read anything of hers. Oh that’s right she was a staunch conservative.

            Although I anything but condone the riots with harm to life and property I can indeed see why African Americans are angry with law enforcement and local governments.

            I am not a Democrat not do I belong to any political party because the dogma and uncompromising ideology from the far right and the far left disgusts me. The far right have taken the rhetoric to such heights tho that they make the liberals look like rank amateurs. Out of curiosity I have been going through your posts on this and other WT forums and have found you to love parroting right wing BS with absolutely no factual base. You hide behind your religion and your comment that Episcopalians are not Christians was despicable. I would not be surprised if you believe each and every conspiracy theory about Obama, no matter how asinine it may be.

            As an experiment to test how gullible right wingers are, about four years ago I decided to make a somewhat negative post on TWT about Obama that was a total fabrication on my part. Never received so many up arrows and within two days it had gone viral. After a few more days of it going around I posted that it was my doing and what I had written was totally false. Most did not believe me, but the few that did had some very choice words to throw my way.

            By the way, I admit voting for Obama the first go around, but did not vote for him the second.

          • dstudie

            And still you do not see the end game. Talk about gullible. You are as stupid as the rest of the sleeping world.

          • Vandal111

            And you sir are a radical right winger who believes any and all things condemning those who do not fit into your narrow and dysfunctrional world view. Just stay happy with your right wing conspiracy theories because that seems to be all you have. You began our first exchange by stating you are nonjudgmental and God will do the judging. What hypocrisy.

          • dstudie

            If you look at any democrat run city in America, you will see that the policies in place created the situation in which people find themselves. This isn’t conspiracy theory, it’s cold hard reality. Baltimore and Ferguson and Los Angeles and now Seattle are just symptoms of the decay and abuse heaped upon them by the democrats. California as a whole is headed down the path of a failed state because of democrats. Wisconsin on the other hand has managed to fight off the blight and leftist unions to prosper, as has Texas as republicans dominate these states. Where strong business friendly republicans dominate, people have jobs and homes and land. Where business hating democrats dominate, there is blight, despair and poverty and loss of freedoms. All you have to do is open your eyes and look around. I live in CA, a one party state ruled by leftist dope smoking democrats and the jobs have been bleeding out of this state daily. Corporations are leaving in droves. Hollywood is dead. You can now go and see the former Tinseltown all tarnished and gutted. The rich and famous don’t live here anymore. Taxes are so high no one wants to pay them. And still the democrats in Sacramento want to raise taxes even more. They want to spend billions on a bullet train no one will ride instead of building desalination plants to supply water to the inland farms. Democrat EPA regulations have caused the greatest drought in CA history. You may call me a radical right winger, and maybe that is true, because I want an end to democrat failed policies that have caused so much misery and despair. It’s time for a new day, a resurgence of prosperity for America, but we won’t get it from the democrats, that much is for sure. Unfortunately, if the Bible is correct, and it has been so far, it is too late for that. I remember reading an article when I was a teen years ago about the coming war on Christianity and I thought, that’s an amusing thought. But now that it is here, being waged by the democrats on Christians in America, I wonder about other articles I read when I was young. One of my HS teachers told me once that the worst thing for America was the democrats. He said they will smile and lie to you while shoving a knife in your back just like the Nazis did in Germany. Well, unfortunately, he was right. The democrats are following Hitler’s strategy exactly. It’s everywhere to be seen if you just open your eyes. and one day, you too will be a victim of the democrats.

          • Vandal111

            Look at the following pages and you will see that most of the states with the highest poverty rates are those that are Republican controlled.

            http://www.povertyusa.org/the-state-of-poverty/poverty-map-state/#
            http://en.wikipedia./wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_poverty_rate

            http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/09/18/americas-richest-and-poorest-states-2/

            Most of the Democrat controlled states also pay in more to the federal government than they get back while it is just the opposite for most Republican controlled states. There are exceptions to every rule, but by and large Democrat controlled states are doing better than Republican ones.

            http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/26/blog-posting/red-state-socialism-graphic-says-gop-leaning-state/

          • dstudie

            Idaho, well that explains a lot. I should have known just by your screen name. I’m done with you then.

          • Vandal111

            Judging folks by where they live. Now that’s an interesting way to admit defeat. Take care.

          • Madeline Brashear

            KC that’s all states’ rights are about is controlling and abusing black people and the poor. That’s how it started and that’s what it remains today.

          • Madeline Brashear

            dstudie, you’ve gotten much carried away here with your facts. Everybody knows that the Gulf War was mainly a war fought by black soldiers as was the war with Viet Nam. A disproporationate number of black soldiers served and were killed in Viet Nam, efforts to refute this fact by some with their own puny and unreliable personal research notwithstanding. My two brothers were in the army during the Viet Nam war; one of them a paratrooper fought and was wounded in the Viet Nam war, the other was in infantry. Men of African descent have fought in ever war declared by America, even during segregation. Black soldiers were not “good enough” to fight and die beside white soldiers in the opinion of whites and when they returned home they were no less second class citizens and disenfranchised than if they had fought against America. Muhammad Ali brought this to even more light when he refused to be drafted and chose prison time instead. His opposition to being drafted was mainly on religious grounds but also on race. Yes, the Irish were suited for the frontier because of their fighting nature and aggression. They not only defended their settlements from Native American attack when they had taken their land but they were very hostile aggressors as well. The only protection afforded the people of African descent in America rests in the federal government, not in the states. The states’ rights argument began as the white man’s evil desire to own slaves and to this day it still rests in the white man’s desire to control people of African descent. If not for the federal government, people of African descent would still be in slavery. Damn some states’ rights! Yes, the democrats of yesteryear were the cruel agents of slavery and anti black sentiment. In this era it is the right winger republicans who have now assumed that role and they took up that role after the civil rights legislation of 1964 and 1965, today working feverishly to reverse those two landmark pieces of legisltion. They have succeeded in destroying the voting rights act of 1965. Republicans have passed laws to make it difficult for black people to vote and intimidate black voters at the polls. There is no clearer picture of which party is the anti black party in America TODAY. We don’t live in 1866 when the democrats formed the KKK, we live in 2015 today and the KKK and other such groups now belong to the republican party, sometimes referred to as the lunatic fringe or right wing extremists but they vote republican.

          • dstudie

            Madeline, pull your head out of your rectal cavity. You sound just like those lunatics on BSNBC and the Communist News Network. You have been brainwashed by lies and propaganda. If you truly feel this way, why are you still here in America? There are plenty of Communist nations that you would be more comfortable in if you like that propaganda. I have a feeling you don’t really believe the crap you just wrote. But you won’t admit it. The democrats haven’t changed in the last 200 years. Their goal remains the enslavement of the American people and since over half the country is now on welfare and food stamps, I’d say they are winning. I could list every democrat program created to destroy freedom, but that would take too long. The Gulf War was not fought just by black soldiers, I should know. Many of my friends, white, hispanic, indian and black fought there. I have friends who were in Viet Nam who are not black. So stop with your delusions and lies. Only an idiot would believe you.

          • Vandal111

            Looking back in time I would say that close to 40% of the Marines in my outfit in Nam were black. Since the black population was only around 20% at that time I would say it was disproportionate. The ratio of whites and blacks actually serving was not the same, but blacks were much more likely to end up in line outfits vs. support groups.

          • dstudie

            I find that very hard to believe if not impossible. It’s just another of those myths that crop up every time someone exposes the left and their lies and propaganda. I’ve seen a lot of photos and film from Vietnam and there aren’t a whole lot of blacks in them. But there are plenty of white guys. Maybe blacks in the military just couldn’t afford a camera. More likely, there just weren’t as many blacks in Vietnam as we are led to believe.

          • Vandal111

            I can only go by what I experienced. Again 40% is not the actual ratio of blacks in Nam, but a higher percentage of them were in line outfits rather than in support units. My guess is that conservatively the ratio in total would be around 70-30% of whites over black.

          • KC

            Jane why are you skewing history? Very few men in the north fought to free the slaves. They fought to preserve the Union. The Irish fought for many reason. I doubt for many Irish that those reasons were to free slaves. The Irish were well known for their disdain for Black people. They murdered them in the streets during the NY draft riots. Sure there may have been a few that could related to the plight of the slaves due to the British treatment of the Irish. But at the end of the day Blacks were often competition for the Irish for low wages. Therefore most Irish resented Blacks. Also… The Irish did NOT lose half their population fighting in the war. Where are you getting these whacky facts from? Are you just trying to make things up? Mind you… some of the best Fighting Units in the Union Army were Irish (the Irish Brigade in particular) but The Irish fought for both sides during the war, depending where they lived. Many Louisiana,GA and VA units were all Irish. I’m not saying the Irish weren’t treated poorly here in the US either… because we know that DID happen. But don’t try to compare the plights of the free Irish with that of the Black Slave. They were NOT the same. At the end of the day… the Irish are WHITE PEOPLE…and until the mid -late 20th century ,if you were not white, you were not allowed to prosper in this great nation. So get off your high horse lady!

          • Jane

            The blacks and Irish were slaves together. Before the blacks came, the irish were the slaves.

          • KC

            So wait. .I thought this whole post was supposed to mock black people by pointing out that the first slave owner was black? Who owned the Irish slaves you speak of? Wouldn’t that make them the first slave owners?

          • Jane

            The moslems!

          • Madeline Brashear

            And black people of African descent were still essentially slaves long after the white Irish were free men in America.

          • Jane

            But the blacks were only slaves for like 50 years, the Irish were slaves for 300…..

          • Jane

            The Irish had it 100 times worse, my brother is a history prof who knows all about it. Cry me a damn river bo ho the poor blacks, they still cant take care of themselves! Funny you dont here chinese complaining do you….
            The Irish were slaves for 300 years, galley slaves,…horrid conditions…under the moslems.

          • KC

            You have no right to say that either side had it worse. I never said that blacks slaves had a worse time than a white slave. Slavery is slavery…there’s no good version of it ,especially while youre in it. The main difference between black slavery and Irish slavery in the US was that black slavery was” race based” and lifelong. Someone could pretend to not be Irish. That rarely worked if you were black. Irish men could shake off their chains and become important members of society during those times. For a black slave that was just about impossible. Why am I evend trying tof explain this to you? Judging by your “boo hoo black people ” comment it sounds like you’re a bigot anyway. Most of the black people I know do pretty well, are productive members of society and don’t deserve your scorn. Perhaps you should people as individuals and not as a race.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Jane, what’s your bottom line problem here? Are you trying to prove that the white Irish had it worse than black Africans? I suspect being a slave was horrible no matter whether they were white Irish or black African. I know the Irish were mistreated in America but they were rarely to never chattel slaves in America. THE IRISH OWNED AFRICAN SLAVES THEMSELVES IN AMERICA. I know of the old phrase, “Irish need not apply” when jobs were advertised. I have Irish ancestry myself. It was the Catholic religion that made the Irish despised and not the color of the skin as was the case with black Africans. The Irish did often have one advantage over African slaves – most of the time their time in slavery was limited. They were often sold into slavery from 7 to 20 years, while the only way Africans could get out of slavery was to buy their freedom, or die. And I’m sure they rarely, if ever happened bought their freedom with the cost of black slaves being expensive. Irish slaves were much less expensive than African slaves because the Irish slaves couldn’t hold up as well as black slaves and were harder to manage and African slaves had to be brought from a much further distance than the Irish slaves and the cost of even bringing African slaves to these shores added to the cost of the slaves. Now you cry me a damn river!! You don’t hear the Chinese and other nationalities and ethnicities complaining because they are 100% free of the white man’s violence and treachery today. That can’t be said of the people of black African descent.

          • Jane

            The Irish came as workers for 7 years. Blacks have had it made in Canada at least for 25 years now. They cannot be fired or denied being hired, even if they do not have the skill for the job! Presently on black women are being hiring in provincial govt jobs and they already are overrepresented in the province and probably over half are not born in this country, they are immigrants!

          • Jane

            Yes and the blacks got 25 acres of free land each and the Irish got nothing!

          • Jane

            And the irish never oppressed people. They really do not have any enemies….

          • Jane

            98% of all the blacks went to Brazil and South America, the U.S. only got 2% of all the black slaves. Maybe you should rewrite the real history of what happened. And blacks had slaves too, so did natives.

          • Madeline Brashear

            What does it matter who got the lion’s share of slaves. America had slaves up until 1865 and then America had segregation and Jim Crow and now America still has Jim Crow in a lot of ways.

          • Jane

            And it was jews and africans who ran the slave trade, not whites. The white man did not see a black person until they were sold and in chains coming off boats in america! The jews rewrote history to make the whites look guilty when in fact they ran most of the slaves trades in history…..and they are also the 1% globalists!

          • Madeline Brashear

            Oh are you saying that Jews were not whites in the 1800’s? Yes, whites who also happened to be Jews were heavily involved in the slave trade. Slavery had along history in the world and white Americans were not the first beasts to enslave another people by kidnapping them from their homeland or buying them for other Africans who held them as prisoners of war and who had them enslaved in Africa. It’s a poor excuse to say that white America enslaved Africans but others had also enslaved them so no harm, no foul, as if when an exploited people have already been exploited by someone else, it makes it perfectly acceptable for whites in America to exploit them without any responsibility. What you don’t understand is that slavery was slavery around the world, but nowhere in other countries who entertained slavery did slave owners deliberately and conscientiously attempt to destroy the history of the people they enslaved like slave owners in America did. They did not rewrite their history to try to completely erase their existence on the earth before slavery in America. They did not try to make them believe that slavery was their only existence in the world. They did not prohibit them from learning to read and write and therefore subject them to only what the slave masters wanted them to know and nothing else. They did not destroy their language. Why did whites fear the black African’s history so much??? Was it because perhaps some of them were intelligent enough to know that people of black African descent were the original inhabitants of the earth, the original builders of civilizations, the originators of the sciences and everything else the white man claims as his own? Since white skinned people originated from black skinned people, as a mutation, it’s highly unlikely that the white man never saw a black person before slaves were brought to America. Slavery in Africa itslef was not a racist system as it was in the America. Yes white men made transatlantic trips to bring back slaves to America . Didn’t you ever hear of the slave shipper who wrote the song, “Amazing Grace?” His name was John Newton and he was an Englishman. But there’s more to that song, Amazing Grace, that most people don’t know. And John Newton was not the only white slave transporter. The following is the best explanation that I’ve heard of the song, Amazing Grace:

            https://youtu.be/DMF_24cQqT0

            To try the very antic of trying to make people of African descent responsible for their own slavery in America and exonerate whites doesn’t wash with any intelligent person. White people in America are responsible for slavery in America and that’s the bottom line. You can’t put the responsibility for that on the enslaved people. To say that Africans sold their own people is not true. They sold their enemies who happend to also be African. They sold their prisoners of war and the white man is responsible for many of the wars in Africa because they enriched chieftains and other agents of slavery in Africa by offering them money and gifts for slaves, making war profitable to them. Everywhere the white man’s foot has set down,he has been an agent of chaos, violence and evil. And then he tries to justify it like you’re doing, Jane.

          • DCF

            Looks like you are making up black history as you go.
            Black Africans had slaves long before they ever saw a white man and still do.
            Slavery in what became the United States was started by a black man, Anthony Johnson.
            Black People were allowed to keep black slaves for 20 years before it was legal for any other race to do so.
            Before slavery ended there were close to 4000 black people that owned black slaves in the south.
            The colony of Virginia had so many freed blacks that were not successful at farming the land they were granted that the authorities feared a revolt. They decided to send them back to Africa…..BUT THEY DID NOT WANT TO GO BACK.
            Why? because BLACK slave masters were cruel, instead of going back INTO AFRICAN SLAVERY they SOLD THEMSELVES to WHITE people so that they could stay where CIVILIZED PEOPLE were.
            Africans declared war on people in order to enslave them FOR PROFIT. To blame that on white people is typical, y’all can’t be responsible for wanting to PROFIT, white devil taught you that.
            White people in America are who ended slavery in America, no other race could have done it, the Africans however NEVER ENDED SLAVERY, they still have it because they don’t have enough civilized white people there to stop them.

          • clkfrau1

            ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Madeline Brashear

            I totally agree with you KC.

          • Madeline Brashear

            No, Jane, you and everyone else ought to be thanking everbody who served in the civil war for stopping white racists from dismantling this country so they could keep their black slaves and be lord and master over the black race in this country, they way they wanted to. They still do that but not exactly in the way they’d like to. You know black soldiers (slaves) served and died in the civil war too. Irish people are white people. White people do not require affirmative action. Their skin color is their affirmative action known as white privilege. White privilege can take you anywhere you want to go. Slavery was an evil that all people of good will should have opposed and fought to eradicate. No one should have fought and died to save slavery of any people, Irish or black, althouigh indentured Irish slavery was nothing like the chattel slavery of black people.

          • Jane

            Yes your right, irish slavery was 100 times worse!

          • KC

            You have with zero proof of that. That’s strictly your opinion. What did black people do to you to make you dislike them? I’m curious? You seemedical to enjoy mocking them

          • Jane

            Fucking sick of their whining and racism and demands here in canada…

          • KC

            Lol! So you’re not even an American? Hence your lack of knowledge of the Irish experience in the Civil War. Which leads me to further doubt your specific knowledge of Irish Slavery vs Black slavery. It’s foolish for either of us to state one was worse than the other because none us lived it. Anyone who is a slave us property. They are considered like animals and not considered human. So whose to say the chicken had it worse than the cow. They’re both meat for the slaughter.

          • Jane

            Well no I am canadian. But minorities here have more rights than I do…

          • KC

            That sounds paranoid and ridiculous.

          • Dennis

            Grnt boy. It seems you have plenty of ignorance yourself. I am white and have experienced the same thing you have experienced. I was pulled over when I was younger and the cop kicked my car and everything. Had me out of the car and tore the car apart in hopes of finding drugs that he could charge me with. Black people are not the only ones harrassed in this country by cops. How ignorant to insinuate such. And I too served my country in the Army. Spent 4 years over seas and served in Iraq form feb 2004 to feb 2005. I don’t expect any free ride or butt kissing for my service either.

          • caughy

            30 years ago, as a young white boy, I misinterpreted police commands at a license checkpoint and kept moving. After realizing the miscommunication, I stopped my vehicle only to soon find a service revolver pressed against my skull. A quick explanation and show of my license had me on my way. Cops have been pussies to me ever since then. I understand my black brethren’s frustration over police brutality.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Just consider that if you had been black, you likely would have been shot and killed or at the least tazed. And you would have been arrested with a long list of charges and infractions if you were still alive.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Dennis I was a passenger in a new Infinity 35XL when she was pulled by police for no apparent reason. She was a woman of African descent. The officer looked her vehicle over as if he’d never seen one and when he came up to her window he looked the inside of her vehicle over as if he’d never seen one. She interrupted his inspection to ask him why she was being pulled over. He said, “You don’t have your headlights on.” It was broad daylight and not a cloud in sight so there was no problem seeling. He aid “You passed me and all I could see was a dark shadow.” Her vehicle was black. When we returned to her house we investigated the guidelines on when headlights had to be turned on. One hour before sunrise and one hour after sunset is what the guidelines in that state dictated for headlights to be on. She was well within those guidelines and to be a police officer, he had to know that. She went to court to meet him and oppose his ticket but he didn’t show up. She’d had to take off from work two separate times on two separate days from her job as a doctor on a military basem, leaving them short of a doctor when they were already short, getting ready to challenge that ticket he gave her. And then he didn’t show up. I suppose his ticket was just for shits and giggles on his part. No, we all understood why he pulled her over from the outset.

          • stedman holder

            So you enjoy scrotum touching.

          • Andrea Gwyn

            It is a shame when people are treated the way you were, I think Metalmoto was referring to the typical gangster thug who feels they are owed just because they are blacks. Yes many blacks are treated poorly, and many are discriminated against, but that is because many more do commit crimes and are violent, it is not right to stereotype all blacks, but sadly it happens. I feel that the attitude that many have that they are owed because of an ancestor in the 1800’s may have been a slave is a huge part of the issue, so is racism, weather it is black against white (don’t tell me it does not exist that way it does) or white against black or any other color. Yes change needs to happen, on both sides.

          • Deanco Storeman

            No, the “sadly” part is, in committing a higher percentage of crimes they victimize other blacks. Because they’re the only people around in that hood.

          • KC

            You are the most reasonable person on here and I applaud your humanity. Most folks on here seem to think all blacks whine about being owed something and need to get over racism that still occurs. Alot of fed up bigots on here. You don’t seem to be one of them.

          • Madeline Brashear

            You white people are just plain sickening in your ill informed whitewashed assessment/opinions of black people. Your words: “Yes, many blacks are treated poorly and many are discriminated against but . . .. ” No “buts” Andrea Gwyn!! That’s a raw, free standing, fact. That’s an impetus for black people to try to retaliatiate against their white oppresors. Why do youi think it perfectly acceptable for black people to lie down, roll over and take all the shit that white people, having the advantage of numbers, weapons and the law behind them, inflict on them? Would you do it yourself? Your words: “It’s not right to stereotype all blacks but . . . . .” No “buts”. You can’t stereotype black people. The only thing you can say that is common to all black people is their black skin. That’s where you need to stop!!! If you were up to speed on racism, you would know that it’s an impossibility for any black person in America to be a racist. The great majority of you are not up to speed on that. Yes, white people are racist. No black people are not racist. Racism by white people causes adverse results, harm and things to happen against black people. There’s nothing any black person can do that can or will cause any adverse effects against white people as a group. Consider that and drop the racist thing when referring to black people as racists. White folks really, really need to learn this. It’s not the fault of black people that white people created racism and as such are the only people who can be racists in America as it stands today and has always stood. Own it because it’s yours!!

          • amy lynn

            really? I was pulled over at age 19, detained & searched for NO reason & I am white! I was also discriminated against on a job! I had more education, more experience & therefore was hired over a black girl who possessed only a high school diploma and No experience! well she threw down her race card, & claimed she wasnt hired because of her skin color & threatened a law suit! well I got fired since i was still a temp & they hired her (mind you she quit ) but i lost that job because i was white! maybe you should check on Black Privilege! because i have NEVER experienced white privilege! also Black people today are the biggest racists & your “Lilly ass white privilege” comment proves that!

          • KC

            Im sorry this happend to you Amy. There are bad people of all races out there. But because this happend to you doesnt give you the right to go on tirade and try to devalue the tragedy that happend to people of color in the US. Everything you ranted about above is a direct result of lifelong chattel slavery. Remember… that just as often that you are discriminated against (which of course is not right) the reverse is happening to someone else of color. No side is more right than the other… therefore it’s wrong to devalue what happend. And just because someone didn’t own slaves does NOT mean that they didnt profit,invest or maintain slavery. The people that treated slaves and free blacks the worse were the NON slave holding poor whites that felt threatened by them.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Don’t wallow in the drama, Honey! Every white person in America is the proud recipient of white privilege. Some of you don’t have sense enough to know it and vehemently deny it. I’ll bet you marched your white ass down the street and got another job in no time at all. I can see why the black girl quit if she had to sue the employer for a job. Nobody wants to have to sue t heir employer and still remain employed by them only to be harrassed until they quit on their own and perhaps this is what happened to the black girl you’re speaking of. There very well could have been other considerations why the black lady deserved the job other than your perception of your better education. You mention you were still a temp worker when you were fired. Perhaps she had been with that employer for a long time and would have been expected to have been hired over somebody who was just being hired as a temp worker. If you were hired as a temp worker, it sounds like you had a probationary period to fulfill before you would be a full time worker. I get the impression that you’re not being forthcoming with the entire story. Seniority does have its advantages and can sometime trump white skin although you likely don’t think that could be possible, even though you deny white privilege. So you play the race card. Sorry you object to “Your lily white ass privilege” terminology but it is true that in order to have white privilege, your ass does have to be white. That’s why they call it white privilege. Honey, perhaps you should take damn good note of the fact that black people today in America STILL suffer from the remnants of slavery. No other race or ethnicity who have ever been enslaved in America STILL CONTINUES TO suffers from that slavery, no matter how many of them were enslaved!! To some lily white ass people, slavery seems like a million years ago and totally separate from the life of people of African descent today, but to a person of African descent, it’s as recent as this morning when their unarmed son was murdered by police. You don’t believe that to be a consideration, do you? People like you can never understand that situation nor do you ever have to identify with it. Of all the senarios you offer of slaves, black or white regardless of who owned them or how many were owned, it still remains that BLACK PEOPLE IN AMERICA TODAY CONTINUE TO SUFFER FROM THE REMNANTS, PERCEPTIONS AND ATTITUDES OF SLAVERY. That’s the crux of the matter. That’s one thing that white people have not stopped. You obviously don’t know or refuse to acknowledge the white man’s role in obtaiing slaves out of Africa. Were it not for the white man being there offering gifts and money to the African cheifs and other white agents of slavery in Africa, no slaves would have been sold. If not for the white man’s demand for slaves in Africa, many of the wars fought in Africa to obtain prisoners of war to sell to white slave traders for profit and enrichment would have been fought. The white man encouraged these wars and everywhere the white man’s feet have set down for any length of time, he has brought chaos, war, violence,suffering, theft and evil. Those things represent the white man’s presence. You don’t think African women were used for sex too by the slave masters, theirs sons and their ilk, and stripped naked and sold at slave auctions? Where do you think the octaroons, quadroons and mulattoes came from??? Slaves in America were not just domestic workers working in THE BIG HOUSE. Those were the best jobs for slaves but slaves did any kind of work that the white man didn’t want to do himself with his frail pale ass. The African slaves could do more work than whites slaves and still live. That’s one of the reasons they were more expensive than lazy lily white ass slaves. Also black slave men were more prolific and the black slave women more fertile than the lily white ass slaves and bore more children who were also slaves and sold away from their parents who never saw them again. Husbands were sold away from their wives who never saw them again. It’s incensing to hear some dull witted, numb minded white person try to diminish the atrocity of the slavery of the people of African descent!! The operative word here is “PEOPLE” They were and are INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, HUMAN BEINGS, not 3/5ths of one person who have no souls as they were labeled and thought of during slavery and as you seem to think of currently. People of African descent were in no position to stop slavery in recent times nor remote times. They were severely limited in that area. They were forbidden to have guns. They were forbidden to assemble together. They were forbidden to learn to read or write and all these things under penalty of death or brutal beating by rabid white mobs. They had no political power. So spare me how white people stopped slavery instead of black people stopping slavery. White people started chattel slavery in America too. If there’s any truth to any black person in American owning slaves, that slavery would have been unrecognizable alongside the chattel slavery inflicted by the whites.

          • DCF

            My lilly white ass was pulled over at 19 by a black cop for no apparent reason and asked if I had drugs in the vehicle. This occurred even though my car wasn’t very nice…not suspicious at all. No, I didn’t have any drugs.

            So why don’t I think race had anything to do with it? Because I am not a racist, the thought never crossed my mind because I am not predisposed to it.

            The angry man is not the white guy doing his job, he is the guy in the mirror.

          • KC

            DCF… we can all argue that many cops are out there just doing their jobs everyday. At the same time to DENY that there are NOT bad apples out there that do judge citizens differently because they match profile is UNFAIR and UNREALISTIC. And Black cops are just a capable of being racist as white ones. The media is showing Black vs White these days because it sells more newspapers and gets people talking. The real issue is over all regulations on how police can deal with citizens. There needs to be investments and discussions on this subject. More effective NON lethal weapons seems like a decent place to start.

          • Madeline Brashear

            Well, supposedly they have nonlethal weapons but they somehow seem to not know the difference between them as was the case in Oklahoma recently and as was the case in a California subway station a while back (Oscar Grant). “Uh oh! I thought I had my tazer and I had my gun!!” “Oh, well, what the heck.”

          • Madeline Brashear

            You didn’t think “racist” because you know damned well that black cops are not known for pulling over white people and harassing them needlessly. But we all know that white cops ae known for it.

        • William Dunlap

          For what reason would said chip even exist on your shoulder?

        • B. Smoove Thompson

          You guys are funny…first things first go research Anthony Johnson…since you probably won’t I’ll post this little piece from Wikipedia…

          He arrived in Virginia in 1621 aboard the James. The Virginia Muster (census) of 1624 lists his name as “Antonio not given,” recorded as “a Negro” in the “notes” column.[2] There is some dispute among historians as to whether this was the Antonio later known as Anthony Johnson, as the census lists several “Antonios.” This one is considered the most likely.[3]

          Johnson was sold to a white planter named Bennet as an indentured servant to work on his Virginia tobacco farm. Servants typically worked under an indenture contract for four to seven years to pay off their passage, room, board, lodging and freedom dues. In the early colonial years, most Africans in the Thirteen Colonies were held under such contracts of indentured servitude. With the exception of those indentured for life, they were released after a contracted period with many of the indentured receiving land and equipment after their contracts expired or were bought out.[4]

          • B. Smoove Thompson

            So if he was sold to a white planter? As an “INDENTURED ‘SERVANT’ what does that mean? He was a fucking slave you ass holes!

          • Travis

            incorrect my wiki loving friend indentured servants are not slaves and are not property.
            You can do the research since you’re so good at it.

          • Jerry Dorsey

            Wtf were they buying if they weren’t property and were INDEED TREATED AS PROPERTY dude you’re dillusional if you don’t think an indentured servant isn’t a slave Lmao that’s a pretty name for it smfh you white people and pretty names for Fucked up shit next you’ll tell me foie grad isn’t just a fancy name for duck liver Lmao man get your head out your ass and admit no way you split it WHITES OWNED THE FIRST BLACK SLAVES or as you so eloquently put it “indentured servants”

          • Francine Tyson

            Ok may i say something to this? Whie people come in all nationalities. So instead of saying white people why can’t it be said The English. Not all white people are English, Irish did not own slaves, we were slaves with you. I’ve never heard of Germans owning African American slaves either. So instead of saying white people it would be better to say English. And just to make it a point, Spanish were the very first ones to introduce slavery of African Americans. So why is it that WHITE PEOPLE, take all the shit for it. Also African Americans are the ones who sold their own into slavery, so why not do intense research and blame the ones that started the whole thing?

          • StEwPiD_MoNkEy

            actually, it was the Portugese

          • Francine Tyson

            Well i guess different books state different things, but regardless so many on here act like they know everything, they obviously don’t. One thing i know all books say is that African Americans sold their own into slavery period, and people just refuse to acknowledge it. It just pisses me off that its labled on all white people. We are all from different nationalities, fingers want to point so point them in the right direction or keep your mouth shut. I don’t mean you, i mean n general.

          • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

            Our whiteness is but a byproduct of our many ethnicity’s…Well said and absolutely true. I came from the McBee’s, Dedmon’s, Hardins all of which came out of Scotland and Ireland…Not a single one owned slaves and had to flee because of religious persecutions and clan warfare.

          • Francine Tyson

            Yes they did, and thank you!

          • Jane

            That is why spain got the bulk of the slaves and brazil!

          • Howdeo

            So you have a chip on your shoulder for the current generation of English?

          • Francine Tyson

            Not at all, it was a long time ago. I was just making a point. Don’t take it to heart.

          • Francine Tyson

            It was my ancestors, not me. I don’t live my life hating on ppl, I was just a bit pissed that so many on here only look at what happened to their ancestors and not the whole picture. They let hatred of the WHITE MAN go to their head when they should really do some intense research on slavery period.

          • StEwPiD_MoNkEy

            Hey idiot child. look up the difference between chattel slavery vs indentured servitude.

          • ANSLQ32

            Jerry, historians should be your reference, and feel free to use a legal dictionary to understand words and terms you are debating.

          • Savannah White

            Indentured servant: a person who signs and is bound by indentures to work for another for a specified time especially in return for payment of travel expenses and maintenance. In the 17th-19th century it was common practice to sell yourself (labor) for a variety of reasons. a person would make the decision to go to america and ask a wealthy family to ship them over and they would be their servant for x amount of years and when the time was up they were to be released according to law. By the way blacks where not the only indentured servants out their nor the first. Their is a difference between the slavery more commonly know in America and indentured servitude. Whether people are willing to recognize and admit those differences is the first step.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            NO he was an indetured servant, Freewill. to pay his passage to the colonies to start a new life. HE was freed! seven years 50 acres n equipment. He could be bartered, White or black indentured servant. it was all the same.Your race was not the only indentured in the 1600s. He sold the Black Race out! Period. In fcat only Freed Black Men were allowed to OWN Black Slaves. John Casors kin should sue the pants off Johns family. It is recorded.

          • ANSLQ32

            No, B smooth. That is not what that means. It is a contract, pay my passage and transfer land to me, I will work indentured for seven years. Even those from any country who found themselves in a new land, but getting hungry and cold, agreed to an indentured contract. The article explains the progression from indentured servant for a set number of years, to a court ruling indentured for life, then a law allowing indentured for life; or slavery. It is the life part, not the indentured part of the term.

          • Metalmoto

            Really? You get your “facts” from Wikipedia? The FACT is, he absolutely was the first slave owner in America. That is a FACT that is only in dispute by racists who are trying to make excuses. Here are a couple more facts that will stick in your craw. There were many freed salves in America that also became slave owners themselves. And here is the biggest fact of them all. Practically all of the slaves that were brought back from Africa were already enslaved by the black chieftains of tribes. The chieftains traded their worst of the worst criminals that were enslaved first. And when they ran out of them, they traded their “good” slaves. Breaking up families in the process. Don’t act like white people are the only ones enslaving blacks. Slavery existed among the native Africans LONG before we were even a country. Actually, LONG before America was even “discovered”. Stop making excuses and stop dwelling on the past. You can’t better yourself for the future if you keep dwelling on past events that have nothing to do with me, you, or any current generation. Get over it and move on.

          • katzkiner

            The ancient institution of slavery is doing just fine in the non White regions of the world. Instead of bickering about who was the first slave Whites for the last 200 years have been working on freeing the last slave. Race pimp, the best paying job in the free world.

          • Jane

            Yes India has 14 million slaves!

          • Tamara Hurt

            Please don’t use Wikipedia, it’s not a reputable source because anyone can alter the information themselves. Schools colleges urge their student never to not use that website.

        • FACENITTYBLANCO

          Ill respond accordingly you a sack of shit with a chip on your shoulder lol your a funny guy

        • Tyler Mitchell

          i come from the same background(Celtic).Thing is most white Americans come from poor and slavery background once you start digging deeper.The greatest slave trade known to man wasn’t in Africa like the naive blacks like tell you..by the way not all blacks think this way..just the vocal ones…the greatest slave trade was found in Europe and it was white slaves.

          • Jane

            Yes 18 million of them. Didnt you ever wonder why so many people in England has Irish surnames!

          • Jane

            Yes 18 million of them. Ever listen to Irish songs, the words speak of tragedy and hardship.

        • Tamara Hurt

          Granted the Irish were slaves at one point but look this picture from a different point of view. Were the Irish enslaved for over 400, lynched, raped, murdered, castrated, chained, families torn apart whose descendants continue to be enslaved? Did the government create a system so that the Irish remained poor, uneducated, ignorant, as well as poisoned water and food? The answer is a definitive NO! Therefore, why would you want those who have experience and continue to experience those atrocities as well as rages of hate against them for no apparent, agree with you when you twist your lips to say, the past is the past. It’s done and over with. It’s NOT done and over with because, at this point, it’s mental slavery! Do you know our government’s intent is to break up the black family? Did you know it was our government that imported guns and drugs into black communities in the early 80’s that almost completely single handedly destroyed an entire generation whose parent were crack addicts? Do you realize alcohol and cigarettes targeted to the black community contains harsh and lethal chemicals than those in white neighborhoods? Do you know there is a system designed to keep blacks enslaved, poor, uneducated, unhealthy, ignorant and complacent! Start with the educational system. It’s antiquated, biased, full of lies and most subjects should be eliminated! Housing and credit interest rates are much higher for Blacks. , Employment practices are racist and biased and the list goes on! Maybe it me, correct me if I’m wrong or maybe I’m missing something somewhere, I don’t believe any other race is still experiencing this issue even in 2015!

          • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

            Blacks weren’t enslaved 400 years by whites, where dig you dig that bit of misinformation up from?

            The blacks that were castrated were castrated by the Arab Muslims and other African slave traders, you are not speaking about American slave traders here, but Arab and African ones…Not even the Spanish nor the Portuguese castrated their slaves…

            Try again.

          • Tamara Hurt

            What is your source of information? What source did you use to conduct your research, Wikipedia? I don’t dispute nor argue historical facts from self proclaimed internet scholars such as yourself because the truth is the truth therefore it will speak for itself! On paper, it is noted slavery lasted 246 years from 1619 – 1865. With that said, we all know it lasted longer than that! Mental slavery continues till this day!

            My grandmother still have remnants of slavery!!! Who do you think you are to question me and act like you know what occurred during slavery in America when you clearly know nothing about it NOR know anyone personally!!!

            White people kept black people hostage as slaves against their will and many were caught, fined or what have you! The only facts, in my comment, you’re disputing are the 400 years and castration, like really?!!! To validate your argument you went to the internet and Googled slaves and castration which led you to Arabs then you returned to rant! Ha-Ha… wrong! Class in session: Google George Washington Carver. He, as well as a lot of black men, were castrated. George was castrated because they didn’t want George having sex with their daughters! Black men were routinely beaten, castrated, burned and hung by white men! These white men severed the PENIS and put it in a jar to proudly display it as a TROPHY to their friends!

            With that said, when on the internet reading comments, read with the intent to comprehend NOT the intent to respond! Be mindful, do NOT dispute topics you know nothing about!!!

            TRY AGAIN!!! Class dismissed!

          • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

            Blah blah blah blah blah!
            Galactic Beauty is just full of herself!

            You are just plum filled to the tonsils with assumptions ain’t ya though?

            No, I amst not a Wikinutia…
            No, I do not quickly runneth over to Ah Ha Google Wrong Ya for information though I do research others claims as should we all do to correct misinformation instead of making unproven ASSUMPTIONS of others… And quite honestly there Galactical Assumptions, I am not a Ah Haa Gotcha kinda guy….Duh!

            Yes…I most absolutely do have a sovereign right to question and confirm yours and others claims for accuracy and authentication, who you are, what you say, how you post — and its YOU our Galactic Beautilicious, who do not have any rights to force others to ASSUME you are to be TRUSTED, RESPECTED or that you are being HONEST, because YOU SAY IT SO?

            NO, it was most certainly not routine for White American Slave owners to castrate Black Slaves.
            Yes it was absolutely a Practice amongst BOTH the Arab and African Slave Traders of the time and even to this day to castrate young black men….To This Day!

            Slaves that were going to be used in the service of Royalties such as eunuchs – harem servants were routinely castrated (very small fraction of slaves)….

            White slave owners encourage procreation for the simple reason to breed more slaves.
            Again, SLAVES were expensive man, their upkeep made more so, why would they castrate what could produce for them high profit margins and trade commodity’s….

            Slaves for the most part were very well cared for, sorta like expensive cattle were in those days BECAUSE they were very very very expensive and even hard to replace….Slaves cost from $4.000 to upwards to $7.000 by the late 1700s into the 1880s, or $90.000 to $150.000 in today’s monetary value…

            The South owned approximately 5-10% of the Slaves in North America, as only a small percentage of Southerners could afford them and 1% of those slave holders who owned slaves were Free Blacks…

            Also, the Europeans, Northern and Southern Plantation owners, both Blacks and Whites, had to take great care of their expensive SLAVES, there were housing…There were Medical, Dental and even Life insurance placed on each of their slaves and this too was expensive…They were generally well taken care of because they did not come cheap and maintaining a good working slave was important to keep production high!

            Africa Has A Long Heritage of Human Bondage, It Is Still Very Active Today?
            And Yes, Its True, White People Are Still Purchasing Them….Their Freedom That Is!

            Have ya seen many Black missionaries, Leaders, Groups going to African and helping their ancestors lately, or ever, to purchase their freedom, to feed and care for them?

            No! And you won’t either, Whites helped to Free Blacks in the 1700’s and by 1865 helped to abolishing slavery altogether…Whites also were tantamount to helping Blacks secure their equal rights amongst whites since after the War of Aggression against the Southern States, whites today are doing the same in Africa and Saudi Arabia to do all they can to secure the freedoms for the oppressed Africans who are being enslaved, by both other African’s and Arabs, Muslim or not….

            The Arabs and North Africans today are perhaps the most violent racist upon the face of this planet and this is very well proven to be true….

            That is, and if, you took the time to research your material…

            But, since you’re an anti – Ah Ha Google Me Wrong kinda of Uninformed Galactical Beauty, I doubt very seriously if even your very knowledgeable at all, and I’m not assuming as much for the fact that it was you yourself who made it very clear that you are against anyone researching or confirming information for their accuracy!

            Yes, you said it so…

            Class Dismissed? Nope, I don think it so my Black Meanie Queenie!

          • Dave

            African slaves were brought to America at the beginning of the 1500 by Spanish settlers. Many of you seem to be confused beginning of Slavery with the one of the British Colonies legalizing slavery in the 1600. There was slavery before that. What law did was specify who they could be, Black. And after 1865, there was a period of Reconstruction in the South, where Union soldiers occupied the region. Reconstructed lasted until 1877, when Republicans in Congress compromised with Democrats, allowing the Republicans to have the presidency while the Southern Democrats got the removal of Union troops from the South.

            That returned the South to it’s pre-civil war slavery institution, except it was called share cropping–where Blacks worked the fields and were offered housing, food and pay. But the pay was alway less than the cost of the housing and food. So, you were forced to continue working until you paid off the debt. Of course that would never happen. And the Black workers couldn’t leave, because law enforce these rules. And then other Jim Crow laws were set up specifically for Blacks, they separated everything and that prevented Blacks from voting. Looks like slavery, feels like slavery and acts like slavery, but we just don’t it slavery. It’s everyone just staying in their place, with the enforcement of law, the KKK, politician, and the White citizens complicit in the segregated society who claim, “that’s just the way things are.” as justification of their own actions. This system went on until the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s and 60s.

            And this article is full a factual un-truths. In the court case where Anthony Johnson was suing Robert Parker over John Casor, Casor was not an indentured servant, but already a slave of Anthony Johnson (because it was not illegal to own slaves). Robert Parker was claiming that Casor was an indenture servant for Anthony Johnson. The first court ruling agreed with Parker, which freed ‘Carsor, and then a court ruling over turned that ruling claiming Casor was Johnson’s slave and not an indentured servant

            This article is right-wing revisionist history. It tries to give the impression that slavery did not exist before Anthony Johnson, and that the first slave owner in America was Black. It also tries to give the impression that indentured servants were released after a set amount of years and given land. Companies that “gathered” indentured servants made as part of their deal the servants that after working for several years, they would be given their release and land. They were rarely given that land and it was rare for former indenture servants to own land.

          • Jane

            and 98% of all the black slaves did not go to Europe and America, they were sent to Brazil and South America!!

          • Jane

            Yes they did, its my birth city which has irish people starving!

          • Jane

            Yes dear they were. They were slaves from 1500 to 1800 under the moslem (check out the Pirate Coast).

          • Jane

            Yes in Ireland!

        • Ron Belal

          Black slavery was different, they took your name, identity, religioun, family & culture. They also breeded black people for generations….like dogs bro.

          This was never done to any group of people in the history of humanity.

          • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

            Jews? Chinese, Irish, Europeans, Asians, Javanese all were Slaves….Well, I could go on and on….You wouldn’t get it any ways….

          • Sparky6string

            The millions of slaves that were taken elsewhere were made into eunuchs and /or killed off. Being bred was not the worst thing that could have happened.

          • billsweb

            NOT TRUE–it was done to the Irish as well.

          • Jane

            THey burned all their books and churches as well. They used to hang them from trees and light their hands and feet on fire. They were not allowed to speak their language (this is why NO ONE IN NORTH AMERICA CAN SPEAK IRISH LANGUAGE!).

          • Jane

            They did the same to Irish, that is why we cannot speak our language !

          • Jane

            Same for Irish people. Its the reason we lost our culture and language.

        • Greg Hensley

          Everyone seems to Forget the most Famous Slave of ALL-TIME!!!! A White Man named Spartacus!!!!

        • simone4447

          so blacks shouldn’t get upset when a swat officer no knock raid the wrong house that has a sleeping 7year old girl? that they shoot and blame it on the grandmother?

          • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

            Of course Blacks should speak out and get upset over Government intrusions…But in truth, more white homes are raided than Black homes by as much as 4 times…We should all denounce swat raids as they are not only ineffective but dangerous and not always reliable…
            But Blacks are making this only about Blacks oppression when we are all suffering oppression under this repressive Government, who by the way calls the shots and makes the rules for the Police to follow!
            We have come under a heavier assault under Obama than any President in our History and that is a fact!`

        • Jane

          Yes Irish had their tongues cut out if they spoke their language.

        • Madeline Brashear

          Metalmoto, you talk a good game for somebody whose post is a total farce. The Irish may have been granted status as white people but black people are still thought of as inferior to white people so the condition of black people in America is not equal to that of Irish whites. Were that shoe on your foot, that so called attitude you speak of would be your own. Nobody, no matter what color their skin, enjoys being second class citizens and treated as such and you wouldn’t either, despite your empty hand me down rhetoric. Your attitude didn’t allow you to do a damned thing! Your white privilege, that most of you deny, allowed you. The Irish were never chattel slaves meaning handed down from one generation to the next forever. You do know that folks in those days would will their children slaves when they died, don’t you, so the slaves never escaped out of slavery all their lives. They were born in slavery and they died in slavery and that’s the only life they ever knew in America. But the sorry Irish were only enslaved for a brief period of time and then you were free; free white men. And nobody knew you were Irish until you opened your mouths and started speaking that Irish yakety yak. Many Irish owned slaves, sold slaves and made great fortunes on the backs of black slaves, whether it was in their labor or in their sale. Rather than say “Thank you”, you denigrate the black man for not dancing an Irish jig because to this day the black man is still enslaved in a different sort of slavery that is a hold over and the direct result from chattel slavery. My own great, great grandfather was Irish and he owned slaves. No Grant Boye, this man really has no idea what he’s talking about. Either that or he’s one hell of a liar. The Irish are noted for being hellashious liars and this man seems to be proving that old belief to be true. Absolutely black people are discriminated against to this day and yes they do know what discrimination is. It’s you who don’t know that. And black people have the right and the responsibility to voice their objections to being discriminated against and mistreated. That’s how laws get passed to keep white folks off their backs. You have neither the ability nor the moral restrait not to try to force black people back under the ways of slavery without laws that punish you for your actions. And you’re even tearing down those laws today. For instance, you’ve gutted the voting rights act of 1965 and passing unfair laws to prevent black people from voting. You’re in the process of trying to gut the civil rights act of 1964 on its housing provisions. You have a judicial system that does not recognize the rights of black people nor values their lives; not indiciting murderers for killing black people, even with video evidence of the murder. You folks are just plain no damned good, as well as evil!! You can’t possibly call it anything else. Not all whites, but far too many.

        • coachsteve105

          You had 19 generations of free labor you laid a foundation for your children off our backs. If you were white you would given land, That you have pass down to your children. You sold cotton around the world building a empire again off our sweat, You didn’t pick that cotton. You locked us up after slavery and rented us out to the farmer to pick the cotton again. Took our language, our culture, erased our history. But naw you don’t owe us nothing.

        • http://amputatingmyboss.blogspot.com/ Tiffany

          It’s not that simple. When you look at how history is taught to children, there is not an honest discourse regarding slavery. It was not until college and independent research for my thesis, that I learned that blacks owned blacks and whites. It is easy to feel like a victim when it appears as though a particular event only happened to you.

      • Amri Enger

        I’m multi racial, my family is a rainbow of color. I embrace all of my history, especially my native ancestory from my mothers side. What I’ve noticed in my own family as well friends is that when another race is mentioned with opression, many blacks get offended. As if no other race has ever suffered as they have. Meanwhile i still have family trapped on reservations without modern plumbing. Unable to get a SS card because they have no ID, unable to get an ID because they can’t get a SS card. It’s a sick vicious cycle. Today’s youth is fueled by the media and spoon fed that white people hate them, so they sag their pants and yell “nigga” in regular conversation, wondering why they are stereotyped. I’ve told my own black family members to lose the chip and join society. The only ones keeping you lower class citizen is yourself, not your color.

        • PG King

          “I’ve told my own black family members to lose the chip and join society” – What you said right there, says it all. You don’t know how many times I try to tell my black friends the same thing. No one cares that you are black and no one cares that you were slaves one hundred years ago.
          –Thank You for your comment–

          • William Dunlap

            PG King and Amri Enger, you’re both uneducated… You’ll never ever understand the effect of “Institutionalism”… While I was able to transcend it it, that’s not the case for everyone are institutionalized in a white-dominated society… Everyone doesn’t beat it… Ever heard of “old money/” You can’t simply state in the 60s that all discrimination has been lifted and expect those “institutionalized” to believe that they could never ever be equal to whites (reason we were forced to ride the back of the bus etc…) to simply “get over it” when we all know glass ceilings still do exist… Again, you’ll never understand because either you’re not black or you weren’t educated… The person that taught me most about this subject was my WHITE Sociology professor when I was stationed in Alaska… Needed Sociology for my Criminal Justice degree… BTW, I harbor no ill feelings about America’s past… Why do you think that on a global scale, whenever there are Civil Rights conventions, all of the other countries tell us that we shouldn’t even open our mouths? Again, that’s the way society was… Many blacks have risen to excel in the country their ancestors built… The U.S. Govt is disporportionately black… I am of Native America, Irish and Black ancestry, and have transited or operated in almost 60 countries, thus I understand more about my very own country than most… And while it’s till no perfect, out of the almost 60 i’ve been, it stands head and shoulders against the rest in terms of being the best country on this planet and there are many many blacks just like me that agree and will GLADLY give their life for its preservation… And just because I’m “part” white and Native American doesn’t mean I don’t understand what my race is going through… Knowledge is power…

          • PG King

            Uneducated? We blacks can learn from the past, not live in it. Most of the people that I argue with (Black Hebrew Israelite’s, Black Muslims) always bring up slavery and what white people have done to us. They always point fingers at white people, never taking responsibility. I’m just saying no one cares about who we are, and no one else cares about our past. I live in Washington DC and there is a lot of crime. So I guess slavery and white people are to blame for this?

            —I have a different perspective on life and history. I don’t call people uneducated because they think differently than I do. I used to do that but I’ve learned over the years not to disrespect people.—-

          • William Dunlap

            I live in DC but am an Antiterrorist/Force protection Officer thus I travel all over the globe… I apoligize for being so harsh… I’m conservative… I blame SLAVERY for the insitutionalism of black people, but also feel that we need to recognize said institutionalism and perservere… I never bring up “whites did this and that” unless I’m responding to someone that is describing history inaccurately… Yes, white folks in power back then ARE to blame for the institutionalism of blacks, however, that was the way of the world back then… It was accepted… A norm… But that doesn’t mean we have to subscribe to and further perpetuate the stereotypes… I love this country enough to gladly give my life for it, without hesitation or reservation… If I die, i hope it’s not by some thug here in DC, but by a terrorist in the Middle East or even here because I courageously placed my life in between the threat and whatever it was I was risking my life for… Whether a human, place of importance, mass gathering facility, person of importance or just plain desire to eliminate someone attempting to carry out terroristic action… Lastly, I have the true American family… At our family reunion you’ll see about a third white, my wife and another Asian, and the rest black… Where I’m originally from it has the smallest population of blacks, thus my cousin were forced to marry whites, as the black were their cousins,,, I have zero racial hang-ups, but I’m educated enough to know how blacks were instutionalized and will gladly debate any inaccuracies I come across…

          • Travis

            There were almost as many black slave owners as white.
            Most white people never owned slaves and a huge majority of white people didn’t get here ( to America) till slavery was abolished.
            Irish, Germans, Russians, Poles, the ones that immigrated after 1880 they never had slaves.
            The African Americans should be mad at other Africans and the Dutch they were the slave traders.
            The colonial Americans just needed labor. If the tractor had been invented a hundred years earlier this would even be a topic of conversation.
            The real question is after hundreds of years in America blacks still don’t want to get on the bus, work, pay taxes, vote, and prosper. It really isn’t that hard if the Chinese can go from being slaves to owning half the dang country, blacks can do it too.

          • stan schmunk

            The colonial Ameericans just needed labor? Why and why didn’t they pay their laborers? James chapter 5

          • ANSLQ32

            It was hundreds of years ago, society norms were very different than today and a ‘living wage’. lol

          • stan schmunk

            The Civil War was 150 years ago and stoop labor still exists today. But the main point is that they were supposedly Christians. Read the first part of James 5.

          • aniee

            Another thing never mentioned, there were very well to do Black’s that lived in the East. How they rose to their wealth i am not clear, but make no mistake, they had their own Black servants. They had power of their own, prestige in the communities and hobnobed right up there with their White counerparts. To bring us to the present, i read a little tid bit of news awhile back which said there is an entire population of very wealthy Blacks that live in the Hamptons. That surprised me fore just the mention of the Hamptons always had me thinking of White people. Who knew!

          • Jane

            Well this should sum it all up. A WHITE CHRISTIAN MAN FROM ENGLAND ENDED SLAVERY IN THE COMMONWEALTH, but it continued in africa and arab nations for decades……….

          • Francine Tyson

            Never forget your past. Learn about it, in every way. I do agree that its the past and we all no matter what color we are had obstacles to overcome, maybe not in the same time frame but throughout history every nationality hadto overcome something. Yes people make mistakes and do unimaginable things, but if people continue to harp on it we has a nation will never overcome it. In todays society African Americans have more opportunity than any other nationality, but if they don’t take advantage of it it will not come to them. I have many friends of different nationalities and i will tell you something i see way to often in the African American community. So many drop out of school and then complain its the white man keeping them down, cause they can’t get jobs, well to me thats a bit ridiculous. White people don’t make people quite school, they don’t make people commit crime, they dont make this happen the individual does.

          • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

            You sound well educated and self sufficient. Bravo. :)

          • PG King

            Thank You!

          • Duende Brooks

            its kind of hard to kill the tension when there are still people a who is alive whom lived thru the civil rights movements teaching their kids and grand kids. People talk about slavery is over and it had happen long ago but they act like after that everybody lived in peace.

        • William Dunlap

          Amri, sorry for being so harsh initially… I too am of mixed heritage… And I too embrace ALL of my heritage, while at the same time addressing inaccuracies when i come across them… Having been mentored and promoted by mostly white supervisors and leaders, and coming from WV originally where we have the lowest percentage of blacks, most of my cousins had no choice but ot marry whites, which I’m totally cool with… My spouse is a fine ass Filipina… Additionally I’m conservative… I don’t believe in Welfare and subscribe to the majority of the Conservative/Republican views/ideology… As far as being lower class, I was first a contractor in Iraq before taking a govt positon as Director, Antiterrorism/Force Protection, Office of Security Cooperation-Iraq, Contingency Operating Sites Tikrit and Taji… I made about 500K in 2.5 years there while eliminating some terrorists along the way… That salary was in addition to my 26-year military retirement/disability pay… At least for that period of time I was considered in the 33% tax percentile (Upper Middle class)… Please don’t mistake my being educated and knowing who controlled slavery with “blaming” white people… The fact of the matter is that white people had the power, money and influmece, thus were slavery’s #1 proprietor… Again, that was the way of the world… We cannot change history… I love my white bruthas just as much as my black and don’t have any chip on my shoulder nor desire to associate with the type of person that has… Especially since I spent the majority of my life in THE MOST racially harmonic institution ever to exist on Earth! THE U.S. ARMED FORCES!!!

          • ANSLQ32

            William, you might make the case for the early 1800s in your #1 ranking, but not for the history of mankind. Otherwise, you are right on! My first wife was Filipina. My second wife (Irish-Native American descent) convinced me not to work in logistics contracting in Iraq as I had already done my 20 years Navy time, and just starting my time with her. Despite what anyone says (mostly uneducated about the world and history) the United States is the single best place to live.

      • Amtoine Grant

        I think you mean the Slavics, which I’m told is where the word slave comes from.

        • PG King

          I don’t know what you are saying. Blacks were slave in the 13 colonies.

          • Jötun Dovregubben

            Slavery began before America. Whites were Slaves to the Ottomans, the Moors, the Arabs and the, Barbary Pirates. The word Slave comes from Slav. Slavic peoples.

      • William Dunlap

        Please… PG KIng you’re comparing “indentured Servitude” to real slavery… The 2 are apples and oranges… Indentured Servants came here willing and thus had to pay off their debts… Indentured servants were not branded, castrated, whipped, raped, bred, lynched/hung, burned alive, amputated etc, nor where they forced to eat the unwanted parts of pigs or cattles, nor did they build a great country only to have to ride on the back of buses (if allowed to ride at all), forced to enter the rear door of establishments (if even allowed entry at all), forced to drink from the non-refridgerated water fountain etc for CENTURIES! And glass ceilings still do exist! Now people will use this idiocy to blame slavery on the very people ot enslaved… I guess Anthony Johnson rented a sip and went to Africa to get his “1” slave to start the Slave Trade ay? SLAVERY WAS CREATED DUE TO THE DEMAND FOR LABOR! Society (white) back then elected to capture Africans and force them into unpaid slavery. As far as Metalmoto’s non-thought-provoked explanation below, again, apples and oranges… Blacks didn’t get civil rights until having to fight and die for them not long ago (60s). White indentured servants were not “institutionalized” for centuries like blacks were… Was any of this right or wrong? It was what it was…. That was the way of the world back then! So again, Metalmoto’s surmize is idiocy… No way you guys are educated with degrees… A lot of this is more than history… It’s common sense… As a Black American that has served his country for 31 years protecting our POTUSs, VPOTUSs, SecDefs, Nuclear Weapons, assets vital to national security, fighting Al Qaeda and ISIS and any other threat to it’s existence, I pride myself on transcending the “institutionalism” and bursting through those glass ceilings to be a successful Antiterrorim/Force Protection Agent… I am most glad that due to my education, I will never ever believe the diatribe and lack of common sense I see often by uneducated folks…

        • PG King

          Not every Irish person was an indentured servant. Read the book White Cargo and other books related to white slaves.

      • Guinnessmonkey

        Feel free to document some of the black slave owners in Alabama. Considering that there were only 2,690 free blacks in Alabama in 1860 and 3,500 in Georgia, I doubt that there were large numbers of black slave owners in either state. Alabama doesn’t exist during the early period of slavery, before it was fully codified as racial. By the time plantations are being set up in Alabama, blacks couldn’t testify in court. If you owned a plantation and slaves and couldn’t legally defend yourself in court, some white guy without land and slaves could sue you and win easily, taking everything you own. There’s a reason why the vast majority of free blacks in the antebellum South are either in Louisiana (which is different than the rest of the Deep South due to the French having different rules for races, including allowing the children of a slave and a white to inherit property) or in the Border States (particularly ones that didn’t’ secede, like Maryland. Baltimore had more free blacks than slaves by the time 1860 rolled around).

        • Jerry Dorsey

          Dude you must be white and don’t want to admit true facts go back in history I’m from Baltimore Maryland it was not a free state it was always a secessionist state if you do you’re research you’ll find the first blood of the civil war was union troops coming through Baltimore… Baltimore Maryland was a port for the slave trade for the south it’s not deep south but it IS SOUTH OF THE MASON DIXON LINE making it part of a The south slaves didn’t stop in Maryland getting to freedom they were traded and held there stop spreading lies man

          • Guinnessmonkey

            Uh, take a deep breath and reread my post. I know that Maryland was a slave state. Slavery in Maryland, however, was mostly confined to the tidewater area; most of the state had few slaves and little support for secession, which is why the vast majority of Marylanders who fought in the Civil War fought for the Union.

            The slaveholding minority in Maryland was indeed rabidly secessionist, but they were outnumbered by the rest of the state. Maryland was definitely a southern state, but it was not secessionist state. The South, after all, was far from united in support of the Confederacy, with poorer, none slaveholding whites often either resisting the CSA draft or openly fighting against the Confederacy. When you add in black Southerners who wore blue, it’s been estimated by historians that for every two southerners who fought for the CSA, one fought for the Union.

            Problem is, many of those backwoods types were also pretty racist, so they didn’t exactly boast about their Unionism during Jim Crow, making them mostly forgotten in southern memory, which preferred (guided by propaganda in history textbooks put there by groups like the United Daughters of the Confederacy) to remember a south united against the Union, even including the ridiculous myths of loyal slaves. It’s ironic that the very people least likely to support the CSA (mountain and backwoods rednecks) are now the ones most likely to wave Confederate flags and drone on about their “culture and heritage”.

            What I wrote wasn’t that Maryland didn’t have slaves, but that the free black population in Baltimore was greater than the slave population in Baltimore by 1860. (Once there were so many free blacks in Baltimore, slave owners avoided sending slaves there when possible, as if became easier for slaves to use the free population to escape, as Frederick Douglass did) And yes, I’m well aware that Baltimore (along with Alexandria and Richmond in Virginia) were major hubs of the domestic slave trade by which millions of slaves were forcibly separated from their families in service to the slave owners’ greed.

            I know this page is full of crazy racists with no real knowledge of history, but I’m just here to mock them.

      • Nobam2012

        Who’s ignoring white slaves? We just get over it an move on. None of use where alive then so why should it bother us?

        • PG King

          It would be nice to see some of this type of history in our history books. Most kids think that only blacks were slaves in this country.

          • Francine Tyson

            Yes it would be great to see it taught in our schools, it should be. And you’re right most kids think only African Americans were slaves.

          • aniee

            This part is true. I am not Black but i only learned about slaves being Black. I was well into adulthood before i knew other true facts. But let me ask you this, why doesn’t Black History Month teach these things.

          • PG King

            ” why doesn’t Black History Month teach these things.” I HAVE NO IDEA! But at least the information (TRUTH) is out there.

          • Jane

            There is an island in the Caribbean called Monsurret. There is a woman from there on youtube, she speaks about her history. She is half irish, half black. Its where all the slaves were sent back in the day (Irish and black). Alot intermarried.

        • Francine Tyson

          Agreed, but it would be nice for schools to teach about it and it be publicized the same as African Americans. Our problem is not enough of us speak up. But I also feel that we don’t use it cause it’s history. We learned to overcome the past and let it be. Although I like to call people out when they try to start with the slavery issue, it pretty much shuts them up real quick.

        • Jane

          So now its time for Irish payback! Affirmative action as well!

      • Francine Tyson

        We don’t ignor our own history, we are denied it. It isn’t taught in schools about my ancestors ( the Irish) and how they were brought here as slaves also. Many people are uneducated on slavery period. Whites no matter what their nationality are sought after about having slaves ext., but in fact the Spanish were the first to bring slaves here African American and Irish. We learned to just to let it go cause if we try in innovate it the schools it will be as if we are trying to justify slavery of the African Americans because we are white skinned. But in fact yes we were brought here as slaves and when we didn’t listen to our owners our hands and feet were torched, we were decapitated and our heads stuck on pikes so that other irish slaves would see this and not try to act out. African Americans of today look at only the color of skin and assume that we were slave owners. They have no clue about slavery what so ever or they would look at things differently, not all African Americans but many. And even many irish of today have no clue that their ancestors were slaves, lack of picking up a book and reading up on their heritage. Its sad it really is. I make it a point to teach my children about the heritage and our history. I’m a proud irish woman and i want them to know that their ancestors made it possible for them to be here.

        • PG King

          Thank you for your comment!
          PEACE

      • aniee

        Maybe it’s because whatever happened way back in the early history of this country needs to be read about, looked at carefully with some critical thinking and knowledge about how to not go down that same road again and then leave it in the past. Fine to talk about stuff, laugh, cry or whatever you need to do and then move on. Whites don’t have a instigator lile Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson (among others) who constantly preach this stuff and instigate hate and discontent. I believe MLK wanted his people to move on with their lives and improve and be forgiving, etc…….not to mention, not be stirring a pot of injustice that leads to a bunch of fighting. That was not his way. Imagine if Whites of Irish descent were all about wanting retribution from the Italians, or Greeks or polish or whoever they thought had dissed them way back when, when they came here to America. We would still be having a ‘Gangs of New York’ attitude and wouldn’t that just be dandy. Maybe people have evolved in the past 200 yrs. and become smarter, better, and wiser…….well. one can always hope.

        • PG King

          I beg to differ that whites don’t have instigators like you mention. I will agree that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson (and others) are opportunist and race hustlers. The reason blacks are ignorant, to history, is because they haven’t been taught real history. When I grew up, I thought that only blacks were slaves and whites were evil. Even one of my teachers in High School couldn’t believe I was thinking that way. I soon learned to actually read and study, and found out the truth. Believe me, I felt really stupid for the way I was thinking. Now I’m angry at all of the blacks that don’t take the time to do research. It’s all about learning from the past and not living in it.
          PEACE and Thank You for the conversation!!!!

          • aniee

            I know of not one White person, woman or man, who jumps into controversial events and starts retoric of a sort which is not just contoversial, but outright lies, and race baits in order to agitate his listeners. Who is the White person you can think of that does this, not just a one timer, but over and over and over, for yrs., interjecting himself into all this ‘stuff’ and is jonny-on-the-spot to preach and try and start some crap. ? I cannot think of one White who does this. There may be some ding bat out there that in their own local community is known as an agitator, but not on a national level. I guess if i had to pick any one i would pick Debbie Wasserman Shultz. She was pretty out in people’s faces all over the place for several yrs, including all the media shows, now not so much. Debbie will not have a long shelf life like Al Sharpton. He even surpasses Jesse Jackson. The old man needs to shut his pie hole and go home and give it up.

          • PG King

            Sometimes people who work behind the scenes are worse than people that are nationally known. “There may be some ding bat out there that in their own local community is known as an agitator”. I excluded the “But not on a national level” because it’s those people ( in communities) that can create web pages and have a following. I will be honest with you and say that, I can not think of anyone in particular. But you have to know that there are a lot of white Al Sharptons around, who have a different platform of ignorance. I know that statement is like a shot in the dark, But I’m not fooled into thinking that there are no white instigators.

            –IF PEOPLE LIKE ME AND YOU CAN COME TOGETHER (OR CHAT) AND HAVE A HONEST DISCUSSION, THE WORLD MAY NOT BE BETTER BUT AT LEAST WE CAN HAVE RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER.–

      • Kevin Shepard

        “War of Northern Aggression” is the so called civil war

      • Jane

        Because it is not whites writing the history it is jews who hate us!

      • Deanco Storeman

        White Guilt. Brough to you by the same jews who brought us communism. Read why: http://100777.com/protocols

      • Roy Bryant

        It is not that we are ignoring our history. It is that elitist-collectivists ensconced in the ivory towers of our colleges, and among the left-wing union teachers in our public schools, and in the “journalism” industry, and in a destructive entertainment business, lie to our children every day in the classrooms and in the news media, to assure that future generations don’t know any truth about history, but believe only those selected episodes they repeat every day that make us think our only hope is to turn all ruling power over to them, the elitist-collectivists, so we will be protected and get the proper free care that we desire.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Nearly every “black slave owner” in Louisiana either was an ex-slave who purchased a family member to free them from slavery (which surely doesn’t count) or else they were mixed-race creoles, most of whom were mostly white (some were 1/16th black or less). That only counts as a “black slave owner” by crazy old racist Jim Crow standards. I don’t think I’ve ever come across a “black” planter in antebellum Louisiana who wasn’t at least partially French (usually mostly French).

      In most of the South, there were two racial categories: Black and white. In Louisiana (and other French or Spanish colonies) there were at least three: Black, white, and colored (gens de couleur). Later American settlers in Northern Louisiana would shun this, which is why nearly all the “free black slave owners” you’ll find were in the southern parts of Louisiana near New Orleans.

    • CGEAR

      You say this to justify slavery towards black people. Jesus Hates You.

    • Susannah Fitters Fedders

      My Cajun family in Louisiana had slaves for the Sugar Cain, Cotton feilds but what dose that have to do with me I wasn’t even thought of. To me it was just there ERA but if the Blacks think it would make a difference “I apologize I’m sorry for that, now what dose that do for you ? Would you like blood ?

    • Jane

      98% of the black slaves went to brazil and south america. Only 2% of the total amount went to america and europe.

    • sutraquio

      Blacks owned Black slaves? Only indirectly. The Black slaves who “owned” Black slaves were called “Free Slaves” BUT the White “massa” actually owned them both. The “freed slaves” STILL were responsible to “massa” for direct care and discipline of the “property”. The Whites always made it their business to update themselves on whether “Ole Sam” was being too lenient with the “charges” (slaves). I am old enough to have great grand parents who attest to this.Some so-called free Negroes treated their slaves with a harsher treatment than they had formerly been treated by the Whites.Usually the “free Negro slave-holders” were Mulatto and given the “status” to #1 To cause and establish hatred and jealousy between the Blacks of dark skin hues and those of very fair hues.#2 To lighten the tax burden on Whites for direct ownership.If at any time the White owner saw fit, they would “borrow” help from “Ole Sam without being refused, because, in reality, they belonged to the White plantation owner anyhow.

  • http://www.amren.com sbuffalonative

    PBS did a story on this years ago.

    “By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.”

    Before you go around citing the above fact, you have to keep in mind one thing. Free blacks often bought their relatives who were still slaves. They weren’t buying slave workers, they were freeing their relatives by purchasing them.

    I point this out because you need to be careful about using this in an argument as it can easily be shot down by your opponent.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003565965916 John Smith

      “By 1699, the number of free blacks prompted fears of a “Negro insurrection.” Virginia Colonial ordered the repatriation of freed blacks back to Africa. Many blacks SOLD THEMSELVES to white masters so they would not have to go to Africa.”
      If they we treated so poorly and Africa was such a paradise, please explain this.

      • Guinnessmonkey

        Never even heard this in antebellum pro-slavery propaganda, so color me doubtful. If you’ve got a source, please share it.

      • Jane

        There you go!

    • Leah

      Read the book, “Black Slaveowners: Free Black Save masters in South Carolina, 1790-1860″ by Larry Koger. He meticulously documents that while a handful of free black slaveowners owned family members the majority owned slaves for economic reasons, same as their white counterparts. Free blacks bought, used and sold their fellow man, same as whites. They are equally guilty, maybe even more so since they owned racial “brothers.” Slavery was the economic reality of the day for both races of free men.

    • John Bonham

      Where did you learn that PBS ?? Ppfftt !!!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Z2DMDOY2LWA6TVIMCYGMQ63WCE andy

      Nonsense ,If they were slaves where the money come from ? Black owned and breed slaves for sale.

      According to federal census reports, on
      June 1, 1860 there were nearly 4.5 million Negroes in the United
      States, with fewer than four million of them living in the southern slave holding states. Of the blacks residing in the South, 261,988 were
      not slaves. Of this number, 10,689 lived in New Orleans. The country’s
      leading African American historian, Duke University professor John Hope
      Franklin, records that in New Orleans over 3,000 free Negroes owned
      slaves, or 28 percent of the free Negroes in that city.

      To
      return to the census figures quoted above, this 28 percent is certainly
      impressive when compared to less than 1.4 percent of all American
      whites and less than 4.8 percent of southern whites. The statistics
      show that, when free, blacks disproportionately became slave masters.

      • Guinnessmonkey

        As I posted below:

        Nearly every “black slave owner” in Louisiana either was an ex-slave who purchased a family member to free them from slavery (which surely doesn’t count) or else they were mixed-race creoles, most of whom were mostly white (some were 1/16th black or less). That only counts as a “black slave owner” by crazy old racist Jim Crow standards. I don’t think I’ve ever come across a “black” planter in antebellum Louisiana who wasn’t at least partially French (usually mostly French).

        In most of the South, there were two racial categories: Black and white. In Louisiana (and other French or Spanish colonies) there were at least three: Black, white, and colored (gens de couleur). Later American settlers in Northern Louisiana would shun this, which is why nearly all the “free black slave owners” you’ll find were in the southern parts of Louisiana near New Orleans.

        Also: I liked the slight of hand you did. You use the percentage of “black” slave owners in New Orleans and compare it to the number of whites throughout the entire country who owned slaves.

        Never mind. I see what you really did: You copy pasted that out of an article you found online (or from someone else who did the same), an article that doesn’t source where Franklin supposedly wrote that (though he sources other books, making it an odd omission).

        Too bad, because the number smacks of BS to me. You only get to a “4.8 percent of southern whites” number if you only count the guys whose name is actually on the deed. That means that if you have a white family of 10 (father, mother, five children, one child-in-law, and two grandchildren) and that family owns hundreds of slaves, that only counts as 1 slave owner. Sure, the son may have a slave manservant who accompanies him wherever he goes, but the slaves is technically owned by his father, so he’s not a slave owner. The daughter may force a slave to breastfeed her child, but her father owns the slave, not her, so it doesn’t count, etc.

        Meanwhile, you can only get to 28% of “free Negroes” in New Orleans owning slaves by including all members of the household as “slave owners”. After all, there’s no way that in 1860, 28% of free blacks were heads of households. If (as you can usually safely assume for this era) that anyone rich enough to own slaves would also have a spouse, then you’re already up to 56% of free blacks in New Orleans in these slave households. You’d have to also them, on average, have no children at all and you still have just about zero free blacks who aren’t slave owners (and only in New Orleans).

        Much more likely that 28% of gens de couleur libres in New Orleans were in households that owned a slave. The number for whites in the South is higher than that, and here we’re only considering the free black population… 28% of 18,647 out of 350,373. So only 1.4% of blacks in Louisiana lived in families that owned slaves in 1860, compared with roughly 29% of Louisiana whites.

        So yhea, those numbers don’t mean what you think they mean. Though when you do a Google search for ’em, you’ll find that racists have copy/pasted that one clip all over the internet. Hell, I wouldn’t even be surprised if they got it wrong in the first place…. But whatever. Why learn anything when you can just copy/paste something you read on a racist blog?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003313803334 Kathleen

    Don’t expect to hear this in the media or History books anytime soon, race hustlers have a monopoly on the eternal victim card

    • William Dunlap

      Uneducated response…

      • Travis

        Not really Kathleen has it pretty much right on the money your own leaders if you can call they that will be more than happy to sell you out for a little air time on TV.

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Well, it won’t be in the media or the history books because it isn’t true, as even five minutes of research would tell you. We know of plenty of slave owners before him. Hell, it’s not like American slavery started in Virginia, anyway. The Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch were already sending African slaves to the Americas by then. Slavery had existed in Virginia for about twenty years before Johnson even owned property.

  • ElComadreja

    This isn’t surprising. Slavery is a time-honored African tradition. Who do they think sold them into slavery to begin with? Being brought to America was the best thing that ever happened to them.

    • New World Order

      Hold on watch it buddy, African Slavery wouldn’t never have happened if it wasn’t for the Europeans coming to Africa and erasing ALL of their history. Africa and the very advanced city of Timbuktu was far advanced in time. They had colleges, libraries, masters of architectures and so much more. And yes Africans sold other African tribes out to protect their families and also guns. They had no choice due to the evil Europeans because they came to take everything and everyone regardless. Africans couldn’t fight protect their selves because the Europeans ruled with Guns and Africans couldn’t win that battle.

    • tracy

      This is a documented photo of a whipped slave. Listen, dear correspondent, do you think this kind of thing was unusual? I dont. , Do you think that after this heinous and inhuman whipping, his life improved and people felt sorry for him sudeenly, or that it continued as badly as before and he died in pain? I dont think anything was dome to punish his owners, be they black or white, and I think all blacks were ina misery inconceivable buy you and me or anyone.. If you can see my point, then in what way, dear corespondent, is coming to America for a black as a slave is the best thing that can happen to a black?

      • katzkiner

        Tracy, in Africa he would have been lunch. In Africa today he would be chopped with a machete, set on fire or both. Sure, punishment was inhumane in the USA in the 1800’s , it is even more inhumane in your fabled Africa TODAY. Prisoners in the USA are treated much better than most citizens in Africa. Visit your beloved Africa, better yet move your silly azz back home.

      • Travis

        Did you not read the article they would stay as slaves rather than go back to Africa.
        tracy you can’t change history we all have to live with it but you can at a minimum tell it like it was and don’t wash it down and try to make it something it wasn’t. Whipping had been used to motivate humans for thousands of years it wasn’t invented in the American south like some might want to you think. Today atrocities are being visited on humans all over the world so try and change the future because the past can not be changed.
        I’d take a whipping over a beheading any time. After a whipping you can heal and live after a beheading you’re not doing much.

    • William Dunlap

      SELL or be SOLD!!! That was their dilemma! They didn’t have much choice! I love it when idiots blame slavery on the Africans instead of the DEMAND for FREE LABOR by those with the power, money, influence and RESOURCES such as ships, manpower and weapons to facilitate said slave trade… What isn’t surprizing is the fact you have ZERO COMMON SENSE!!!

      • Travis

        I don’t think blame is the correct word, but if when the Dutch came to Africa they had been greeted by a united Africa ready to fight for their freedom instead of tribes willing to sell their neighbors. The whole slave trade as it was would have been different.

        • Jane

          A black slave was worth 30 shillings, an Irish slave was worth 5!

  • MooTieFighter

    Wait, wait, wait. Don’t take the history of slavery away from blacks. Whatever would they blame their failures of today on?

  • Augustus3709

    It should come as no surprise since Slavery was the currency of Africa. They had no production or money, so they traded in cows and humans.

    According to the Explorers in Africa, the going price for a slave was ten cows.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      Africa had no production or money? Mali had enormous gold mines. One king apparently gave away so much gold in Egypt on the way to Hajj that he disrupted the economy for years. Africans had as much a market for agricultural products as Europeans had.

      Slaves in Africa had a status similar to serfs in the Europe of the time; they owned certain days to their master and certain days labor was kept for themselves. Intermarriage between slave and master was common, nor was slavery usually for life (let alone for the life of your children). It is unknown if Africans selling POW’s (etc) to Europeans fully understood what the fate of those they sold would be; that a large percentage would die in the crossing, and the rest would be held in chattel slavery for the rest of their lives, their children’s lives, and the lives of their descendants for hundreds of years; that they would have no rights at all, and be subject to rape, murder, mutilation, and brutal conditions and treatment.

      • Augustus3709

        The fact that that one king gave the gold away showed that he didn’t understand money or economics. Africa did not have an agricultural market like Europe. Most products Africans were seeing for the first time and only learning about them. By the Renaissance serfdom was already over in Europe. African slavery was not similar. Africans owned their slaves and could rape and kill them, since they totally owned them. Africans who sold slaves and prisoners to slave traders didn’t care what their fate was. Those slaves were just a payday. Other times the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade saved the lives of Africans who were otherwise going to be tortured, mutilated and killed by their fellow Africans simply for sport and entertainment. For some, slavery across the Atlantic was their only salvation.

        • Guinnessmonkey

          WTF? You read a story of a guy so rich that he bought popularity by giving away gold and read a racist parable about a guy too simple to understand that gold has economic value?

          Serfdom declined in Western Europe after the Black Death, but got worse in Central and Eastern Europe, where it would last until the mid 19th century.

          The bit about slaves being saved by the slave trade is mind bogglingly crazy.

          • Augustus3709

            He obviously didn’t understand economics to give all the gold away. That didn’t “buy popularity”, it was a wasted opportunity for his home nation. What was “racist” about observing his poor investments?

            The last bit is not crazy at all, it is absolutely true. Africans would capture rival tribes and for fun have gruesome torture and sacrifice ceremonies. Traders took them as slaves which saved their lives.

          • Guinnessmonkey

            Well, centuries later they were still telling tales of how rich and powerful he was. And I’m not sure you understand economics if you think that gold was an amazing opportunity for the people of Mali (too early for any country to be a nation); a one way ticket to inflation back then, a mistake Europeans made just as much (gold and silver destroyed Spain, for example).

            Africans are not all one culture or ethnic group. Not only am I not aware of any “gruesome torture and sacrifice ceremonies” in the areas most slaves came from (West Africa was mostly agriculrural, with scattered small towns. Early on Europeans traded with them for agricultural goods more than slaves, particularly grains of paradise, which was used as a pepper substitute), but I’m even if these ceremonies did exist I doubt they routinely killed 20-30% if the population, which is the number usually lost on the Middle Passage. On top of that, the vast majority of slaves went to the Caribbean sugar plantations, and there conditions were so brutal that the average slave lived only 10 years after arriving in the New World.

            Arguing that the slave trade was a net positive for the slaves is like arguing that the Holocaust was a net positive for European Jews. Sure, some survived and may even have done better in Israel or the USA or whatever, but most died horribly.

          • Augustus3709

            I was speaking of equatorial west Africa and the experiences of European explorers there. Clearly not all Africa is the same, but that particular location is where the stock of slaves for the journey came from.

            I didn’t say that slavery across the Atlantic was a net positive for Africans, but there is a strong argument that it actually was. Some slaves died in transport, but not all Africans in the New World were slaves. Many owned slaves themselves. Their opportunities in the New World allowed a larger population to grow. Slavery was in the end a net positive for their numbers, where they could not have sustained such growth in tribal Africa.

            The proof is in the fact that when the US government created Liberia and offered to relocate Africans back home, the overwhelming majority decided to stay, some actually going so far as asking their former masters to officially place them back into slavery so that they could maintain the lifestyle that they were comfortable with.

            Your analogy to “the holocaust” is odd. How do you define the holocaust? What does that word mean to you?

          • Guinnessmonkey

            It was centuries before black populations in the New World experienced natural growth. Death rates were so high that new slaves had to be constantly brought in to replace those who had died from the brutal conditions. Similarly, they already had such numbers in “tribal Africa”.

            Liberia was initially quite popular. It was when they heard stories from the ones who made the journey and heard how they were ravaged by disease (those who grew up in areas in North America without endemic yellow fever (which gives lifetime immunity if you get it as a child) would have been unprepared for the disease climate of West Africa, and would have died like flies in the rainy season) or how some weren’t even taken to Liberia, but were simply re-enslaved by unscrupulous ship captains).

            Again, I have NEVER heard of any free slaves who asked for re-enslavement. Ever. That smells like total BS to me.

            I really hope your question about the Holocaust isn’t a lead in to you telling me how it never really happened, but I wouldn’t be surprised on this website.

          • Augustus3709

            Africans had easier lives in the New World than in Africa, with better care and milder weather as well. It’s dishonest to keep talking about “brutal treatment”. Africans received no more brutal treatment than in Africa itself.

            Explorers noted that in African tribes they couldn’t find a single woman without gashes and scars on their legs since the men beat them so much with sticks and whips. Children would often be sold for goods or left for dead.

            I asked you out of curiosity to define the holocaust since you brought it up. I noticed you dodged the question.

          • Guinnessmonkey

            Why do I need to define it? I didn’t dodge, I just find your request tiresome. I’m talking about the mass murder of European Jews by the Nazis. What other definition is there in the context of European Jews? The fact that you’re even asking is kinds creepy

            If you think slavery in the New World was even vaguely “mild” then I’d like to know your sources. I have an entire library on the history of slavery at this point, and none of it describes slavery as mild. Slavery in the Americas was vastly more brutal. Name the source that claims otherwise, because I’m getting the feeling that I’m wasting my time with a Lost Causer that thinks slavery wasn’t so bad, which really just means that you have no idea what you’re talking about and/or get most of your knowledge of slavery from white supremacist propaganda. Frankly, I should have just stopped dealing with you when you made the ridiculous “re-enslavement” claim, doubly so when you didn’t name a source.

          • Jane

            Don’t forget the natives had alot of slaves as well. I heard for every one black slave a white man had, a native had 4! And also white women were traded back and forth between the white man and the natives just as easily as slaves and alcohol and goods.

  • mchawe

    This Anthony Johnson may be black but does not have classic negroid features. If his skin were white, I would say he was a JEW. Negros usually have fleshy noses, large nostrils, and small ears. This one has a JEWISH nose and JEWISH ears. How he ended up with the name Johnson is a mystery, but LBJ was probably a Jew also. My verdict: he had Jewish ancestry.

    • Nick Rodriguez

      Your verdict? based on? lmao hes from Angola with NO Jewish heritage. lmaoo “your verdict” what a putz.

  • Steve Clayton

    One thing I get a kick out of that everyone likes to bury is only whites in North america, Uk and Europe Banned slavery. Africa the middle east and asia Still have it where they enslave people of any colour.. Dubia was completely built by slaves. and most of the expat that lived in luxury over there participated in it. have nannies for their kids they they never paid and held on to their passports so they couldn’t flee..

    And yes I am sure many as they got free the blacks in the old US south bought their families.. I wouldn’t be surprised if some did both.. bought workers and fam.. They had to make money to keep running to keep their fam or they would go broke everything would be seized and they would all be back in chains fast if that happened.. AS for O’s comments.. I have said a similar thing for many years and she may have and ya know how the news twists things to make it as horrible as they can.. I have said that for all the race and religion hate and such that we have in the world. That it will not truly be gone until we have passed three generations without a single person being subjected to it.. Now yes. cnn and faux news could twist that easily into untill all the racists are dead.. No. even I grew up listening to racist crap all the time.. maybe more then most. my brother was adopted and black, so we attracted it.. I’m I racist no.. but all those stupid things are down in the back of my childhood.. Do I believe them. No.. but they are there.. and I will do my best to make sure i die without them ever passing my lips.. But I have heard them all.. sorry. I’m foggy and babbly a lot… I would love a world with no racism. but i see things getting worse not better..

  • peter peters

    If you understood the Arab slave and European and Roman Slave trade one cannot refute that the Blacks or most of them had Hebrew ancestry. All past empires had one conclusive commonality and that is the enslavement of the Hebrews. This included; Egypt, Persia, Assyria, Babylon, Greek, Romans, Ottoman ,British and Spanish Empire and lately the Central.
    Powers.
    Race and Religion are not our Problems its wicked and selfish individuals.

    • katzkiner

      Blacks are NOT Hebrew. If you know who Pete Peters was you know this. Peters was CHRISTIAN IDENTITY preacher who passed in 2011. Peters sermons are still on U Tube and the shortwave @ 5830 & 9475. You are a real funny guy. You should post under the name Elijah Mohammed or Kalib Abdul Mohammad, more your speed comrade.

      • Hughvonne Godric

        i know this man and from my own research i find that what he says is bullshit

        • katzkiner

          The biggest deposit of BS around here is between your ears. Slavery in Africa is more human? You should get out of Fairycons comic books and read the journals of Dr. Livingston. Africa is the most inhumane place on the planet.

    • Jane

      Yes just a handful of corrupt evil people your right!

  • katzkiner

    Slavery died in the USA 150 years ago. White people killed it. Blacks are free today because Whites handed it to them on a silver platter. They did nothing to earn it.

    • Guinnessmonkey

      White people also defended it, and black people helped kill it. I’d say that the hundreds of thousands of black soldiers in the Union Army did plenty to “earn it” (like anyone has to “earn” the right to not have their wife raped or their children sold away from them). Way to oversimplify, dude. And, like I said earlier, it’s not like slavery was the only thing in the path of black progress. Jim Crow, which was defended by this very organization, did a lot, too.

      Also: Holy shit. Y’all sell Rhodesian flags. You’re not even pretending to not be hardcore racists, are you?

      • katzkiner

        Calling me a racist has about as much impact as me calling a Black Panther racist. Our current crop of race pimps love to revel in the history of slavery. To me this is irrelevant except to the extent it gives thugs a license to beat, rape and kill some poor White kid. A well placed .45 slug revokes any assumed license. Be careful who you pick on, some do not buy into your race pimp BS. Slavery ended 150 years ago, I deal with the here and now. Get a F*****g life retard. We could care less about your Negroe blues.

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Wow, how brave of you to be racist, or to call my pointing out that you’re post was a stupid oversimplification “race pimping” (whatever the hell that means). You’re my HERO.

          And yes, I KNOW you don’t care about black people. It’s one of the things that makes you a disgusting racist, you nitwit.

          • katzkiner

            Did you say something, comrade?

          • Guinnessmonkey

            Right, because everyone less racist than you is a communist. *eyeroll*

      • Gerald Allen

        Then why do blacks support the party of welfare, KKK and Jim Crow laws?
        Remember it was a democrat governor the tried to keep schools segregated. Sounds like they enjoy being held as victims. Get the free government cheese and sit on their butts crying about how unfair it is that because their forefathers might have been slaves, they should never have to work.

        • Guinnessmonkey

          Um, because the parties flipped in the south after the passage of the Civil Rights Act under LBJ, duh. Most blacks vote Democratic for the same reason that Dixiecrats like Strom Thurmond became Republicans. The same reason, I might add, that the CCC (formerly the WCC) now supports far right Republicans instead of far right Democrats. This isn’t rocket science.

          The rest of your post is just mindless racism, so I’m ignoring it. Have fun being crazy.

      • katzkiner

        Holy Shit! We are “wacist”! How could you tell? Blacks are one of the few tribes on earth who think it should be illegal not to like them. You should be so special.

        • Guinnessmonkey

          What are you even talking about? I mean, I know that, being racist, you’re stupid enough to think that everyone with a particular skin color thinks a certain way (as if Al Sharpton and Clarence Thomas are in total agreement on everything, simply based on the fact that both have more melanin than most of those descended from Europeans do), but what’s all that “it should be illegal to not like them” crap? I pointed out that your knowledge of history sucks and that you’re a racist; nobody said anything about how there should be laws to make you like people.

          Be a stupid racist all you want. Most people will, rightly, think that you’re either foolish, stupid, or evil (I have a feeling that they’d be right on all three in your case), but you have the right to think whatever you want, just as we have the right to think that you’re a worthless piece of shit for thinking it.

          • katzkiner

            “Resist must we much.” Tell us how you really feel idiot.

    • stan schmunk

      Except for the 190,000+ USCTs, who Lincoln credited with turning the tide in the war.

      • katzkiner

        Let’s see, blacks built the Pyramids, the Great Wall of China, won the War of Independence, defeated the South, defeated the Germans in WW I &11, created the nuclear bomb for us, defeated the Viet Cong, put us on the Moon, yes, we would be nothing without the great black beast who could barely make a fire and did not know what a wheel was when the backward White man sailed his boat into Africa. I read that comic book.

        • stan schmunk

          All I did was state the truth about the Civil War. Can you dispute those facts without launching into a white supremacist rant?

  • Hughvonne Godric

    My problem with this is that his name was Andrew Johnson. Therefore his ancestors must have been brought over here by force and their masters would have changed his last name. Don’t forget that he was the first to own a LEGAL slave. Im sure is possible that there were many illegal slaves as well. And also for the reason why they didn’t go back to Africa was that in the white mans culture it is common to destroy the image that was Africa in their minds thus making it seem like a bad place. Slavery in Africa was far more humane than this. they were treated almost like extended family and were never beat.

    • katzkiner

      And why should we give a damn? See my comment below. Whites in the USA ended slavery 150 years ago. Get a F-g life.

      • Guinnessmonkey

        Yhea, but black civil rights are only a few decades old, thanks to groups like the KKK and the White Citizen’s Councils (oops. I did it again: The Council of Conservative Citizens. Totally not racist now, right?).

    • http://ragnarscorner.blogspot.com/ Ragnar Redbeard’s Ghost

      Maybe he changed his name to try to fit in?

    • Donald Penny

      If I were a slave owner in America during slavery.I would want a healthy worker not a beaten worker.Feeding and housing was a business expense.Any slave that would be trouble would of been sold off not beaten.Beating a slave would of damaged and lowered the sale price

    • Jane

      Brought by force by black africans and arabs you mean??

  • Guinnessmonkey

    Not sure why I’m bothering refuting anything by the White Citizens Council (oh, I’m sorry. Council of Conservative Citizens), but the article isn’t even true. Anthony Johnson wasn’t the first slave owner, nor was his slave the first slave. We don’t know for sure who was, but we do have records of John Punch being declared a slave for life even earlier. His slave was simply the first slave who was determined to be a slave for life in a CIVIL court. Numerous slaves before that had been determined slaves for life in criminal courts in Jamestown prior to this.

    But whatever. Don’t let facts get in the way of your racism.

    • katzkiner

      And then there were the slaves Jamestown accepted because the captain of a Dutch ship was going to drop them in the ocean. Soon thereafter the colonists killed them all because they had this propensity to rape and kill when they got bored.
      “We still doin’ the romba baby, ain’t changed a bit”

      • Guinnessmonkey

        WTF? Where do you even get this stuff? What, the Jamestown colony never wanted slaves, they had it forced on them? Then continued to have it forced on them for hundreds of years? Just how stupid can an argument be?

  • Michael Mason

    I don’t care about any of this. I’m here because I want an ethnically pure state for whites.

    • AndrewInterrupted

      I never see you over at AmRen[dot]com. We discuss such a topic often.

      I think Scotland may pull it off–and start the much needed chain reaction.

      • http://ragnarscorner.blogspot.com/ Ragnar Redbeard’s Ghost

        Scotland intends to be multicultural.

        • AndrewInterrupted

          And Ted Kennedy, in 1965, said that the American demographic of 85% European wouldn’t change after Hart-Celler. We’ve learned from the Left that words and intentions are two different things. This will be part of the Right getting into the gutter of the Left and using their tactics of flat-out lies.

      • Michael Mason

        Do you live in Scotland? What makes you say that?

        • AndrewInterrupted

          No, the England example, and the Scots obviously wanting to prevent it. The Rotherham affair and the multi-culti hell that is London is why Scotland is trying to split. Rotherham just accelerated the movement. When independence happens, then watch the true agenda roll out. And I couldn’t be happier.

          • Michael Mason

            Would the E.U. and British government allow that to happen? The enemies of our people have too much power in the E.U. My hope is that a white ethnostate will be born out of a full scale race war that could happen in the next century when whites become a minority. That, or perhaps an eastern European country will have a full-scale re-awakening. But in the UK, people aren’t even allowed to own guns and the fact that they’re a richer country means for every true patriot you have a half a dozen pseudo-sophisticated white liberals.

          • AndrewInterrupted

            The vote will be done in less than 10 days from now, and Buckingham Palace has gone silent. It is done. The first European based ethno-state is born. May there be many more. I hope to see dozens of them in the place formerly known as the U.S. The U.K. break-up is just the starter pistol.

          • Guinnessmonkey

            Man are you people stupid. The SNP is left wing, and had several prominent non-whites leading the “yes” campaign. Though thanks for giving me yet another reason to be glad that Scotland voted “no”: It made a bunch of crazy racists sad.

  • CleanFloors

    Regardless, look up a map on modern slavery. Notice Liberia and Sierra Leon? Hm? Nauughty naughty!

  • dauoo

    Ahahahaha!!!!! So, let me get this straight. A black man named “ANTHONY JOHNSON” was the first slave owner in the US? Ahahahahaha!!! It’s amazing you ppl can even get you pants on in the morning.

  • Marilynne Cathy Ousley

    Hugh Gwyn was the first slave owner in 1640, John Punch was the slave. Knock it off with the dumbass revisionist history. Use logic, if the person slave owner was a black man, don’t you think they would have been hitting MLK all up about the face and neck with that little piece of information? Johnson didn’t own a slave until 1654, a full 14 years later. Sigh.

  • ariel

    Bahahahaha. Fantastic

  • Lucid Umbriel

    What is all this talk from “the right” about liberals and “the far left”? I don’t know if you guys realize this yet, but they’re all woven from the same cloth. One may be blue and the other red, but they’re the exact same fabric. It’s all the same ol’ ploy of pitting folks against each other and forcing them to pick sides, like it’s some sort of game. Both sides are brought to you and paid for entirely by the same lobbyists. It’s just an illusion of choice, so that you’ll feel represented, even though it doesn’t really matter who you vote for, if you vote dem or rep. It’s like when rep call themselves “fiscally conservative”, which they’re not, it just sounds good. It’s a marketing scheme, like “best choice” or “always save” or any other trigger-words used to manipulate public opinion ::) C’mon guys, duh.

  • Lucian Brown III

    umm indentured servants were white as well and “owned” by whites….not a good example of what some people in here are excusing themselves for. All your response should be is, yeah that was fucked up…period instead defensive…when you really shouldn’t be.

  • Mansa Keita

    Not true. Slaves were being imported into the Americas since 1519 and the first slaves sold in America were sold in Virginia in 1619

  • Greg Lage

    The First African slave brought to the new world was in 1526, so this is just NOT true!!!

  • Greg Lage

    In 1619 the Dutch traded 20 slaves for supplies in North America, and it is documented. And they were owned by Whites! In 1640 New England shippers got involved in the slave trade. This is just NOT historically accurate!

    • Guinnessmonkey

      It similarly ignores that African slavery in the Americas was hardly invented in Virginia; the Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, and French had already been doing it for years. There’s a reason why many of the slaves whose names we know in early colonial Virginia have Spanish names (Johnson’s first name, for example, was “Antonio”, which hardly sounds English to me…).

      This thread is based on several levels of bad history, all stacked on top of each other.

  • Mark Kauder

    I have a problem with the “poster” above. A PHOTOGRAPH of a man from 1654????? 1854, yes, but not 1654.

  • Jerry Dorsey

    This is misleading he was the first black man to own slaves not the first slave owner he was already an enslaved servant when he came here like the guy Samuel l Jackson played on django who once was free and given property to hold slaves of course he would own slaves that’s what he was brainwashed and TAUGHT was RIGHT TO DO ..white people find some bullshit to make it like they still weren’t wrong for slavery

  • Jake

    In the midst of this conversation I find myself thinking will I ever get a raise at my job? That grease burns when your dropping fries and it pops u.

  • Koko Sela

    I am not so much concerned about the “pioneering slave owner”, or any subsequent particpants, President George Washington, “wealthy” African-Americans of that time period, who by the way, were called Colored, Negro or worse, as I am deeply troubled by the “pioneering presidents, politicians, and other officials” who signed slavery into law, in the first place, and enforced it, as such, for 245 years.

  • Jeff

    Even black historians will tell you that white people didn’t go into Africa and capture people to sell as slaves. African tribes would have wars and the losers would become slaves to that tribe. Then the victor would sell some of their slaves to the European slave traders. These people were already slaves before the Europeans got to them. They were going to be slaves in Africa or in the Americas. At least before 1655, these people had a chance at a better life in the Americas.

    • Jane

      There you go! So they hit the jackpot with the white man!

  • redape

    This is not entirely true. There were several events of lifetime bondage beyond terms of indenture (slavery) in Virginia prior to the Johnson case. This was simply the first case challenged and lost. It only occurred because the individual – Casor- had been freed. In the other cases they were never freed.

    So slavery did not “begin” because of a black man. It pre-existed this case and Johnson was only making an argument before a (all-white) Court that was largely agreed upon by custom amongst them.

  • sfcmac

    Funny how facts like this never make it into the dumbed-down liberal history texts.

  • yoboybigtuna

    Sure, Anthony Johnson was the first slave owner, but I wonder why white people thought it was ok for them to do it too?! I also doubt Anthony beat the hell out of his slave and treated him less than dirt, but what do I know, I wasn’t alive back then. And don’t forget about that wonderful malice white people were putting out after slaver, butthurt that they couldn’t own people anymore, lol. Lmao, America is so awesome!

  • http://www.blackamerican.us Bobby

    HERE’S THE REAL TRUTH!!!) BECAUSE ANTHONY JOHNSON WAS (NOT) THE FIRST…

    When Johnson was released from servitude, he was legally recognized as a “free Negro.” He developed a successful farm. In 1651 he owned 250 acres, and the services of four white and one black indentured servants. In 1653, John Casor, a black indentured servant whose contract Johnson appeared to have bought in the early 1640s, approached Captain Goldsmith, claiming his indenture had expired seven years earlier and that he was being held illegally by Johnson. A neighbor, Robert Parker, intervened and persuaded Johnson to free Casor.

    Parker offered Casor work, and he signed a term of indenture to the planter. Johnson sued Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654 for the return of Casor. The court initially found in favor of Parker, but Johnson appealed. In 1655, the court reversed its ruling.[9] Finding that Anthony Johnson still “owned” John Casor, the court ordered that he be returned with the court dues paid by Robert Parker.[10]

    This was the first instance of a judicial determination in the Thirteen Colonies holding that a person who had committed no crime could be held in servitude for life.[11][12][13][14][15]

    Though Casor was the first person declared a slave in a civil case, there were both black and white indentured servants sentenced to lifetime servitude before him. Many historians describe indentured servant John Punch as the first documented slave, as he was sentenced to life in servitude as punishment for escaping in 1640.[16][17] The Punch case was significant because it established the disparity between his sentence as a negro and that of the two European indentured servants who escaped with him (one described as Dutch and one as a Scotchman). It is the first documented case in Virginia of an African sentenced to lifetime servitude. It is considered one of the first legal cases to make a racial distinction between black and white indentured servants.[18][19]

  • Michelle Yeack Brantley Johnso

    Tell
    them to find Anthony Johnson’s KIN FOLK:). Anthony Johnson came to
    America has an indentured servant. Many people came here in 1600s as
    indentured servants Black and White in the colonial days. Anthony was a
    black man from Africa. He served his seven years and received his
    freedom and 50 acres. He built that up to 250 acres and had several
    Black indentured servants was the first BLACK SLAVE OWnER. John Casor
    was one of his black indentured servants. when it was time up for Mr
    Casor to be freed and receive his land, Anthony Johnson said NO. He said
    he was extending Mr Casors time. Well Mr Casor left and he went to work
    as a free black man for Mr Robert PArker. Well Anthony Johnson was not
    having that he sued Mr Parker in court in 1654. In 1655 the court ruled
    that Anthony can hold Mr Casor Indefinitely! There you have it. The
    first black slave was owned by Mr Johnson. Not only that , whites could
    not own black slaves ill 15 yrs later. Only free blacks could own black
    slaves. In Fact, there were many Black Slave Owners in the days. 1670
    the court ruled that feee white, black and Indian could own black
    slaves. A few years later, the number of free blacks prompted fears of
    a Negro insurrection. The courts ordered the freed blacks back to
    Africa. Many blacks sold themselves to white masters so they would not
    have to go to Africa. By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in
    the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves
    owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone. There you
    have it! Go get your Reparations from Anthony Johnsons kin. This is not
    taught in Black History Month. It Should Be!

  • Tyler Mitchell

    Did you know that there were more Irish men,women,and children sold into slavery than black…almost two to one.They worked right beside the blacks…that story has been “lost” because it doesn’t fit the agenda.The elites no matter what color they are look down on the middle and lower class…once you understand this…then you’ll understand how the world works.

    • Jane

      Yes and it explains why so many blacks hare Irish surnames, they married the Irish maids….

  • James Sunderland

    This I did not know.

  • King Sutan

    This is not true and white propaganda
    John Punch Jamestown(slavetown) Virginia 1640 one of the first slaves buddy stop trying hide your ancestors dirty criminal histories. This black man won a slave in European courts

  • King Sutan

    What source? Or is this all from you a$$?
    By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

    • Jane

      And dont forget hundreds of natives owned slaves as well!

  • HMan570

    The past is the past but the Blackks feel they are owed something, they are owed nothing at all. They choose to be morons, killers, crooks and refuse to learn. Every ethnic people that came to America were discrmianated against, the Blacks just enjoy all the free-bees that the liberals choos to hand to them. German, Polish, Italian, Irish, Sweeds, Japanese, Chineese, Russians, Slovs and all the rest of the people who came before us to build this country to want it is today. Lazy people no matter color all had to learn American ways, lanuge and money. It took time and people that came here live in the same comunity that were of their country till they learned and them moved onto other areas of our country. I get angered at the blacks as they are lazy, and find it eaiser to sell drugs and pimp out woman and make babies that whites have to pay for. We have been funding them for over 200 years now and still they want more and more. If they were not as lazy as they are they could get the same benifits that ever other race has because they worked for everything they have. Never have they used an excuse or take from other for that free ride. We are a country of many and of all kinds unliike Europe I feel for the younger generations that will have to pay for all the mistakes the politicians will leave them to pay for. You can bet the blacks will not be amoung those that help to pay down the debt or stop the free-bee. The Blacks always use the race card to try and bail them out of trouble, I am thinking that people are getting tired of hear that old story over and over. So when you say you are being discrimanated against so what you are not special get over it. This is America and we have been Discrimanating against others since our country was founded.

  • serious woman

    You are so right Rhonda but, they ignore it.

  • Duz2600

    One other comment on slavery, in my research, I have found that some men ‘bought’ their wife into slavery, so she could never be sold away, and their children, also were protected by being recorded by deed as his slaves.
    One source mentioned it to have been a common practice, to prevent enslavement and sale on the market!

  • SENT ONE

    Blacks did not treat indentured servants like chattel! Blacks generally and on a large scale did not rape, hang, beat, or any other heinous and inhumane act against another black. Even with regard to what is referred to as black on black crime, blacks generally target those whom they have an issue with, yea often times just sense violence versus whites who blow up buildings, shoot up schools and theaters involving innocent lives all together.
    And blacks might well “get over it” if we were treated equally and fair, the laws are established to either box us out or block us in.
    To even imply we (decedants of the enslaved-African Americans) should go back to Africa, our stance is we ain’t going nowhere because our ancestors funded the economic wealth and infrastructure of this country with their very lives, enduring the vast atrocities which the heinous institution of slavery incited and enforced upon generations of our ancestors.
    I reiterate our ancestors blood, sweat, tears funded the economic infrastructure of this sinful country.

  • Sarah Schmit

    Why are the Irish slaves forgotten and their history ignored? Why do blacks deny that there were black slave owners.?

  • jamiel trimble

    John Punch was an African slave who lived in the Colony of Virginia during the seventeenth century In July 1640, the Virginia Governor’s Council sentenced him to serve for the remainder of his life as punishment for running away to Maryland; in contrast, two European men who also ran away with him were sentenced to longer indentures but not total loss of future prospects for freedom. For this reason, historians consider John Punch the “first official slave in the English colonies and his case as the “first legal sanctioning of lifelong slavery in the Chesapeake.” Historians also consider this to be one of the first legal distinctions between Europeans and Africans made in the colony, and his case a key milestone in the development of the institution of slavery in the United States. John Punch was owned by Hugh Gwyn in 1940, some 14 years before the Anthony Johnson case in 1954. Look it up !!!

  • Bob Venturino

    Slavery encounters all races!!!

  • Ograf

    What is really insane is that there are millions of blacks who seem to believe any and all Whites are their enemy, and that any and all Whites are in part directly responsible for slavery and treating their people very badly. That , I guess, justifies assaults, murder, and robbery and rape of White people for how their ancestors suffered. Pure Insanity.

  • Lyrian Diaz

    Racist acts and neither a black or white won the stupidity and to top it all wearing army camo clothing that used to be the Army uniform and now is FASHION. VERY CUTE , see what kind of people we are breeding careless and stupid youth and the parents should be ashamed of this punks or as they refer among s themselves gangsters or Gang members . They should learn discipline and their parents too . Keep making a living and leaving monstrous children behind and racist at that whether your Black , White , Chinese , Korean , Thai, African , Mexican , Puertorican , Costarican , Salvadorian , Panamenian , Brazilian , Dominican , French , Russian , Indian , Egyptian , English , Spanial , Cuban , Portuguese , Vietnamese and others . All are included in being Racist one to another . Grow up , Get along and Raise our children with Love . Lets make our United States a place that is peaceful and the place everyone dream of living at because you tried to bring the stupidity from your believes to this here United States NOW we HAVE WAR IN our own land . You guys are pretty you always crap where you live that’s why this is NO longer a Powerful Nation or a Proud Country you Ruined it for your own CHILDREN that my friends is not LOVE . THIS IS ACTS OF HATE .

    If you love your family change our lives one act of kindness at a time .

    BY LYRIAN DIAZ

  • Hershall Bott

    lol… under the blog there is a Confederate flag… Ive seen enough

  • http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM TOM P O’DONNELL

    SAUDI ARABIA BANISHED SLAVERY IN 1992. BUT SLAVERY GOES ON TODAY ALL OVER THE WORLD. INCLUDING THE USA WE HAVE DRUG SLAVES. PLUS AT LEAST 10% OF THE ILLEGALS THAT OBAMA SMUGGLES IN. UNIDENTIFIED MEANS NO TRACE.

    • Jane

      There is still slavery in 2015. Check out walkfree.org for who has slaves and what they do. India has 14 million slaves.

  • http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM TOM P O’DONNELL

    THE RACE CARD IS A COMMUNIST TRUMP CARD. IF WE FALL WHO WILL TAKE THE BLACKS IN? RUSSIA? CHINA? NOBODY. WHO WILL TAKE THE AMERICANS IN? NOBODY. OR YOU COULD TAKE YOUR CHANCES ON YOUR KNEES SINGING KUMBAYA.
    LIKE BEN FRANKLIN SAID: GENTLEMEN IF WE DON’T HANG TOGETHER, SURELY WE WILL ALL HANG SEPARATELY. COPS BEAT WHITE KIDS TOO. MOST OF US HAD IT COMING.
    http://WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTYRADIOSHOW.COM
    .

  • ChocolateCarrot

    1) Slavery in the USA is widely documented as beginning in 1619, so your WHOLE article is disingenuous.

    2) Irish were indentured servants, which is NOT the same as slavery. They CHOSE to come to another country, work for a period of 7 years (typically), with the future prospect and opportunity of making a more prosperous life.

    If they (The Irish) and their children, and their grandchildren, and their great-grandchildren ad infinitum, had been trapped in actual slavery their ENTIRE lives, you could comment on how THEY ‘don’t have a chip on their shoulder’.
    The fact that, after their indenture was served, they were allowed to go on to have the same opportunities as all other whites shows how ignorant and unintelligent your statements are.

  • oldbill

    A slave owner could free his own slave any time he wanted by simply writing a letter and having his signing witnessed. The letter basically made a US citizen out of a person who before the signing was property. There were some abuses, such as destruction of the letter, and the courts didn’t want to bother with the cases. But, in most cases, the Freeman would move out of the South. He could then buy the indentured contract of his fellow Black men. Thus Blacks could and did own slaves. This changes the flavor of racism to power over another person. Racism is the result of the loss of that power, or more likely, a desire to have that power.

  • Butch Maxine

    Question? Who owned the 141 slaves in Chesapeake, Virginia
    between the years 1626 – 1650? Seems to predate Anthony Johnson and John
    Casor. I’m not disputing black ownership
    of black people but I like to be as factual and as precise as possible in my personal
    research.

  • mananwoman

    Very interesting!!!

  • James Morgan III

    The author of this article needs to renounce the image in it. That is NOT Anthony Johnson, it is Lewis Hayden. Hayden was an abolitionist who actually helped inspire Governor Andrew of Massachussetts to allow for the formation of the famous Massachussetts 54th and 55th United States Colored Troop Divisions…. Please take this image down immediately

    • http://jericho777.wordpress.com/ Jeffrey Hardin

      Yea man, we Southerners sure put an ass whooping on that regiment and their Col. Robert Shaw at Battery Wagner didn’t we, screw Lewis Hayden and Lincolns Yankees, both black and white.
      James Island still giving up their bones today….

  • Marlon Berend

    Most blacks will denied this. …..

  • Jane

    9 million were starved to death by the English…

  • Robert M

    This has to be biggest crock of lies I have ever read. This is is worst than Williams lying, and O’Reilly war stories. Anybody that studies history knows that this is pure hot garbage bullshit. Seriously in1655 lol. This really beyond freaking comical and delusional delusional.

  • Jane

    Check this out on youtube: Ireland & the Slave Trade. (shows original letters from England on the Irish slaves).

  • Dallas X

    I’m sure after Anthony Johnson sued Robert Palmer and won his case
    Robert Palmer counter sued and won his case thus ending in Anthony Johnson becoming a slave himself. ….. oh the irony of these things and I’m sure Anthony Johnson’s only words were. (DAMN I F#@k’ed up

  • Devin Simmons

    I still don’t see why yall are arguing if he was the first slave owner, first off, the people who were rounded up in Africa by enemy tribes or what have you, were taken by force away from their family, how can you say and indentured slave chose that to get out of Africa…. how would this be possible with no understanding of the language whites spoke, second they probably didn’t even know the Americas existed. Secondly the whites love to point out about black slave owners and traders but explain this to me, if it were all a happy agreement then where did segregation come into the picture, why was it such a problem to have free blacks if there were already free blacks… somethings doesn’t add up here, just think on it everyone, its 2015, trusting a textbook on certain historic things are about as credible as wikipedia lol

  • merrakesh

    SO WHAT?
    As if this fact absolves the shifty way that this country has treated black people. Yeah there were black slave owners, but for every one black one there were like.10,000 white ones!

  • Glenn Shiloh

    “By 1655 there were no LEGAL slaves in the colonies” How about ILLEGAL ones…also according to the History.com….

    Foundations of Slavery in America

    In the early 17th century, European settlers in North America turned to African slaves as a cheaper, more plentiful labor source than indentured servants (who were mostly poorer Europeans). After 1619, when a Dutch ship brought 20 Africans ashore at the British colony of Jamestown, Virginia, slavery spread throughout the American colonies.

  • http://www.moadaron.com/ Harold Smith

    And Slaves more often than not, were purchased from African Tribes in Africa!!!!!!! The point ALL RACES OF PEOPLE ARE GUILTY OF SLAVERY……………………………………

  • Dery Demas

    This is just semantics, and I am not even sure what this article is meant to prove. Johnson was brought to work on a Tobacco farm (most likely against his will), so he was essentially a slave before he was freed.

  • Antogeny

    Those Blacks who owned slaves were simply behaving as they did in Africa! African tribes fought among themselves and took slaves – so did Native Americans. Too many Blacks alive today can’t read or write – how would they know any history! Even Oprah said, “If you want to hide something from a Black person, put it in a book.” How sad…

  • Roy Bryant

    No, no, no! His mistake was getting shot so that his Democrat (RINO) vice president could ruin reconstruction. And they would never have agreed to go, even if some of you think it would have been a good thing–which it would not have been–they would have had to have been put in chains and forced to go back, the same way they were forced to come here.

  • The GRIM!

    I went to the Battle of New Orleans Battlefield park that was fought on plantations in 1815! there are some plantations there that were owned by blacks at the time of the battle with slaves!

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